Talk:McDonnell Douglas MD-11

Operators section
I've modified that section to make it more detailed, and hopefully clearer, allowing one operator to appear as current but also to show its former status if possible. --EuroSprinter 09:29, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Updated further.116.71.27.16 (talk) 17:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Design II - Third Main Landing-Gear Truck/Bogey
I'm surprised the "Design" section of this article makes no mention of the additional landing-gear truck/bogey fitted under the fuselage in between the two main landing gear units jointed in the wings - you can see it in the shot of the EVA Air Cargo bird included in the article or, even better, here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/perspectivephotography/10448649934/lightbox/. It's a noteworthy addition to a design that had weight issues, one that would therefore seem worthy of discussion in the article. I can't think of anther passenger liner with a similar arrangement.BLZebubba (talk) 09:24, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The center landing gear is carried over from the DC-10-30/-40 that the MD-11 is based on. There's nothing new or different about it.  However, a description of the landing gear arrangement is worth mentioning. -Fnlayson (talk) 12:30, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

In service parameter and picture in infobox
Given that KLM, one of the last passenger operators, is withdrawing this type from service (and sending the planes to Victorville (VCV) for scrapping) should this parameter be refined to "In service, mainly as freighters"? Additionally, since the KLM plane in question has been retired and is now pending (if not already) scrap at Victorville, should the picture be replaced with a FedEx Express picture - as FedEx is the largest operator of the type? - AEMoreira042281 (talk) 16:19, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Regarding the picture in the infobox, it doesn't have to be of an in-service aircraft, and we certainly shouldn't be limited to only those of the largest operator. It should just be a good in-flight image that shows the aircraft in a good angle. If you can find one of a FedEx airctraft that is better than the existing image, then fine, but to put in a lesser image isn't the way to go. - BilCat (talk) 16:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Out of passenger service
The last MD-11 passenger flight for KLM just returned to Amsterdam from Toronto. There will be three hour-long farewell flights on November 11, but for all intents and purposes, the MD-11's passenger history is finished. Should the description be changed to "in service as cargo aircraft", similar to what the McDonnell Douglas DC-10 article has (which shares a type certificate with the MD-11)? -- AEMoreira042281 (talk) 02:23, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Assessment
The article doesn't have a section about how pilots see the machine, or I would have added something out of the following: "From a pilot's view, the MD-11 is an aircraft which is very challenging to fly. Not only are the approach and departure speeds uncommonly high, but the whole flight envelope requires highly skilled flight captains." Source: Lufthansa Flight Training GmbH, https://www.proflight.com/de/standorte/frankfurt.php Translation from German mine. (May contain impreciseness as I'm not a pro with the jargon.) --BjKa (talk) 14:51, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Primary users
I have just updated the primary users section so that it will be in order. but before you change it back, let me be clear that I looked up the fleet of a four of those airlines and found out that Fedex Express has 56 MD-11, UPS has 37 MD-11s, Western Global Airlines has 14 MD-11s, and Lufthansa Cargo has 12 MD-11s. But the order the primary users list was in this order: Fedex Express, Lufthansa Cargo, UPS Airlines, Western Global Airlines. this is the Wrong order so I switched it back to the right order: Fedex Express, UPS airlines, Western Global Airlines, Lufthansa Cargo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:703:200:F9A:7830:A948:FA40:A82B (talk) 13:09, 14 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Based on which source(s) exactly? The list was ordered to match the list in the Operators section that is cited by Flight Intertnational's airliner census source. -Fnlayson (talk) 14:56, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

well that flight international airliner thing is wrong. Lufthansa cargo has 12 MD-11 where UPS has 37 MD-11s. so your sitation is wrong. |:(

Possibility of changing header image to a freighter example?
The MD-11 has been out of passenger service for half a decade at this point, but over half of the fleet is still used as freighters. It's wholly unrepresentative of reality to keep using a passenger MD-11 as the header image. The header should be changed to a FedEx or UPS freighter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pabst blue ribbon led zeppelin (talk • contribs) 01:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The article is not about the MD-11 now, but about the whole MD-11 history. Most have been delivered as passenger airliners, and it should be kept as the most representative variant.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 13:20, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * But most passenger aircraft were converted to freighters, and the header image should be representative of how the plane is seen in the wild now.


 * Not true this is an encylcopedia and as Marc Lacoste has said a representative image if OK and a KLM passenger MD-11 seem reasonable. MilborneOne (talk) 19:42, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Planform diagram
I made a comment on the picture itself but the planform diagram of the MD-11 at the bottom of the article looks wrong to me. Specifically the tail mounted engine intake is drawn as being straight when another photograph in the article points out that the intake is bulged. 5.66.196.200 (talk) 10:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)