Talk:McDonnell FH Phantom

What does "Fighter Weapons School has since changed that" mean? I have no idea. Adrian Pingstone 08:10, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)

First American carrier landing
The article mentions that the second prototype was the first a/c to land on a US carrier (Roosevelt July 1946) but Baugher and ASN say the 2nd prototype crashed in August 1945. Was it repaired? what was the final fate? MilborneOne (talk) 21:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Francillon's McDonnell Douglas Aircraft since 1920 says it was the first aircraft that landed on FDR on 21 July 1946. Angelucci and Bower's The American Fighter however says it was the first aircraft that crashed and that the second prototype made the carrier landing.Nigel Ish (talk) 22:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The Air International article agrees with Angelucci that the 1st prototype crashed on 1 November 1945, with the 2nd prototype being completed early in 1946.Nigel Ish (talk) 20:52, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Does either the AI article or the Angelucci book provide enough information about the crashes to replace the dead ASN links? (See my question below.) Carguychris (talk) 13:56, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * For the first prototype, yes, but neither say anything about the second prototype crashing.Nigel Ish (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, Mills agrees that the first prototype crashed in November 1945 and the second prototype landed on FDR in July 1946; no mention is made of the second prototype crashing. Carguychris (talk) 15:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Prototype crashes
The referenced Aviation Safety Network links for the two prototype crashes do not work, and I can't seem to find the incidents in the ASN database. Does anyone have the correct links? Carguychris (talk) 15:39, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Service with VMF-311?
I would like to know if any sources besides Francillon's McDonnell Douglas Aircraft since 1920 make reference to service with USMC squadron VMF-311. Mills and Mesko do not, and I haven't seen any archival photos of Phantoms marked for Marine squadrons other than VMF-122. Furthermore, other sources indicate that VMF-311 used the Lockheed TO-1/TV-1 (aka F-80) Shooting Star during this time period. Possible mixup by Francillon? Can anyone shed more light on this? Carguychris (talk) 15:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Production dates
The article states that "On 21 August 1948, halfway through the production run..." and then "with the last FH-1 rolling off the assembly line in May 1948." One of this dates is obviously erroneous. Seeing that the introduction date is given as "August 1947" I would guess that the first date should also be from 1947? Diego bf109 (talk) 03:01, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Why not jet aircraft for Navy use?
Because WWII jet engined aircraft had poor acceleration and long take-off rolls. And as they generally do now: Jets have a higher stall speed, take-off speed than contemporary aircraft. Several WWII propeller driven aircraft with high takeoff/Landing speeds also had (crashing) issues. Obvious omission from this article is that Aircraft Carriers were not fitted with Catapults till the mid 50's. (As well as engines with higher peak power, e.g. afterburners.) Shjacks45 (talk) 21:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * "Obvious omission from this article is that Aircraft Carriers were not fitted with Catapults till the mid 50's"
 * This is incorrect. The USS Langley, Lexington-class, Yorktown-class, Essex-class and USS Wasp were commissioned with hydraulic catapults in various configurations on the flight and hangar decks. USS Ranger was designed to operate them and had them installed during a wartime refit. Several WWII British carriers also had catapults installed. 2601:5C4:4280:240:49FA:BADF:B881:B9A0 (talk) 21:10, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

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