Talk:McDonogh School

List of graduates
I know the list of grads is far far from complete. Doesn't have to be limited to Wiki-only (but if they're famous they're probably in WP)--Rbeas 00:40, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Dejuan Summers is not a notable graduate seeing as he is yet to do anything as a McDonogh Alum. Honestly, putting this kid right next to Bolton and Pam Shriver is laughable. Perhaps he put it there, himself! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.86.167.87 (talk) 17:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Whoever keeps putting this kid up, listen here. I can name literally 50 McD athletes to go Div. I. They are not notable becuase it is not that rare an accomplishment. Pam Shriver, best female tennis player to ever live. John Bolton, UN diplomat. Someone who is only a Div. I athlete does not come close to these guys.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.86.167.87 (talk) 15:44, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Military traditions?
Well, I suppose we are all entitled to our opinions, but when it comes to a little revisionist history about the school I think that there is a limit. For example, the Article History page should read... "

"In 1971, the military traditions of the school were discontinued, a victim of the Viet Nam War. The semi-military system as it existed has been highly regarded by many alumni as the principal contributor to good character within the school's graduates of that era. The school became coeducational 1975 despite explicit provisions of John McDonogh's will."  It was there, but somehow it kept getting deleted. Hummm... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.69.185.93 (talk) 16:16, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Major Alvin J. Levy
I think that this is an unnecessary addition to this page. It does not need to be the main focus of a school's page. If it was happening now and Mr. Levy was still headmaster, it would be one thing. But I think that adding a comment about pedastery after the school handled it and dismissed Mr. Levy is an unnecessary addition and seems to be an malicious attack on the school's reputation.

Who is Major Levy? What did he do? I went to McDonogh in the late 90's and I know the name but was too young to remember what actually happened. Who keeps removing the comments about the pedophile activity of Major Levy?
 * Per wp:talk, this page should be focused on the encyclopedia article, so discussion here should be about content that can be verified and placed in the article. For more information see WP:FORUM --CutOffTies (talk) 12:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

This is a ruthless attitude toward the many cadets who were abused during this dark period. Also you should be signing your name.

It is a VERY necessary addition to this page. We need to stand up and acknowledge a wrong (if we have any character at all) and do our best to make it right. Somewhere I have saved the original information (not posted by myself but very understanding) and will bring it back here where it belongs. Don't get me wrong. There is much I love about McDonogh and spent much of my childhood on campus. But there was also a dark side that was unforgivable because of the way it keeps being swept under convenient carpets. 75.211.194.227 (talk) 17:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)Smoky Shepherd '59
 * Please see Wikipedia is not a forum for why the previous comments were removed and verify and reliable sources if you want to add this to the article. Without citations in reliable source, this is original research and will be removed from the article. Thank you. --CutOffTies (talk) 12:39 pm, Today (UTC−5)

Not sure if it is good for the school to verify the activities of this deceased person, but per your request, I am working on it. In the meantime this discussion page is an appropriate place to discuss this sensative issue. 75.211.194.227 (talk) 18:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)Smoky Shepherd'59

OK. It took me a year of research but here are the sources you requested: Case Number 03K92003163 Name Levy, Alvin J Date of Birth 05/1921 Party Type-Defendant Court-Baltimore County Circuit Court. Also check case # 00707301C0 Levy, Alvin Joseph 05/1921 Defendant Towson District Court CR Closed 08/17/1992. Now, may we go on and get this done? Or will this become another Penn State??? Smoky Shepherd Class of 59  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.248.83.43 (talk) 00:47, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Just 2 hours ago a live coverage of the new Penn State College President press conference was broadcast. It seems he is presenting a model of what McDonogh School could follow in handling large numbers of sexual abuse by faculty members upon students. For those who argue this took place in the past and should be swept under the carpet, Penn State is struggling with the aftermath of taking such an attitude. Just as Penn State is improving their public image, McDonogh has the opportunity to do the same. One of the points in the Five Point Program proposed by President Rooney Ericson is to encourage (not suppress) full discussion by students and alumnae. While this page is not the venue for such an open discussion, it is a place where recognition of McDonogh's history should be discussed. An open revealment of such a disappointing part of a largely successful history would go a long way in achieving closure for a large number of suppressed students and also show the world how McDonogh can ethically manage such disappointments. A chance to move forward with honor. Garthz100 (talk) 23:04, 11 November 2011 (UTC) Smoky Shepherd Class of 59


 * In the context of adding content of the article, discussing it on this talk page is fine. For activities such as chat that has nothing to do with adding to the article, leaving e-mail addresses for further discussion, general thoughts, throwing out names and associating them with crimes with no sources, it is NOT okay and will be removed. Thank you.


 * Also, please do not delete or move previous legitimate talk comments. --CutOffTies (talk) 19:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)--CutOffTies (talk) 19:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Levy was a child molester...so was a guy named Robert Creed who taught there...the Baltimore Ravens cheerleader who was doing a student there is conveniently not mentioned in the article as well...amazing how the powers that be always get their way..if this stuff isn`t in the article what`s the point? Elitist predators...if it ever happened to you maybe you might feel a little differently about this...hell is too good for these assholes..as the English schoolboy tradition continues in the good old US of A 67.105.174.130 (talk) 03:44, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

I don`t know if the allegations were ever in the article and taken out or were never in the first place..I do know after years of researching child abuse and my overall attitude towards the rich is the rich always get their way..ie Trump who allegedly raped a 13 year old girl..child sexual abuse historically referred to as "the unspeakable crime" is categorically denied by both the rich and the poor..there is no reason whatsoever that this information should should not be in the article and that if anyone ever puts it up again it will be removed...I cannot source any of this which is why it`s on the talk page..if I were to reference this and post it it would be removed....I was there...I know it happened.
 * I see it`s all been kept out of the article as well...no surprise there..Creed was getting blowjobs for grades..I assume Levy as well..I knew both those assholes and doesn`t surprise me a bit..it`s probably still happening..it`s always existed in private boy`s schools just like the catholic church

Athletics Content Updates
Hi, I would like to help build-out the athletics section, I could contribute scores, stats, stories - and could update this section weekly, if that would be valuable. If there is something else that you would like to see, instead, let me know. I have been following the MIAA for some time and would like to share some of my content. Thanks! Digitalsports (talk) 03:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Famous Alumni
Would like to see some focus on the early years. Let's not forget Henry Gantt (Gantt charts) - Class of 1878 - and his impact on business management! Roostersburg (talk) 05:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC) Also: Carey Winfrey (1959) Editor of Smithsonian Magazine and Bill Mules (1959) Educator and former Headmaster of MCDonogh. (Steve V. 1959) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.60.144 (talk) 13:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)