Talk:McFly/Archive 1

From Talk: McFly (disambiguation)
I've moved the comments below as they seem more relevant here and removed the redirect RicDod 20:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Fansites
Please can people not add further links to fansites, especially those that require visitors to sign in, or contain very little information. The number of links we have now serves adequately, but Wikipedia is not a web directory. --Sanguinus 12:35, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Video sighting
Okay, since I think no one has seen the talk page for Five Colours In Her Hair, I will repost this question on the more popular McFly talk page.

But just checking, does anyone know if the video to Five Colours In Her Hair in the United States? I think I saw it there on MTV early to mid-last year, but I'm unsure if that was the British McFly (I forgot the contents of the video but I remember it saying the band name) or a song from the American McFly (The Mighty McFly)? Can someone check for me? --Akira123323 14:12, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Controversy
"However, the members have been playing instruments and writing songs for several years, so any implication that the instruments were used as a marketing ploy to make them more 'real' are deeply cynical. The fact is, they are a 'real' band whether the cynics like it or not."

that sounds very like a POV to me. Especially with the words "the fact is." The last line really shows the writers fustration with these "cynics"
 * I agree, and I have now edited that sentence to (hopefully) a more neutral point of view. --Sanguinus 00:12, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Was also a bit of controversy when they played at the London Big Gay Out (2005) with (wait for it) the Christian community.

Early Beatles
The article stated that McFly are similar in musical style to early Beatles material... this isn't the case at all; they share very few similarities to the Beatles' Merseybeat era. in fact, they are much more akin to their mid/later later stuff circa Revolver, Sgt Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour... Though they certainly share more similarities with McCartney's style than Lennon's or Harrison's, so I changed the reference accordingly.NaLaochra 02:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Criticisms Section
I notice the ciriticisms section has dissapeared. Who and why did they do that? User:Merlov 11:4, 13 March 2006

The sections above were moved from Talk: McFly (disambiguation) RicDod 20:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Pointless Information
Is this really needed? I'm sure it isn't 100% true either. --Stacey 14:47, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

HELLO, THIS IS ALL TRUE!!!!! APART FROM THE GIRLS ALOUD STUFF, WHICH WE DIDNT PUT. EVERYTHING ELSE IS TRUE!!!!


 * Well..where did you get it all from? I still don't think it's really needed. --Stacey 16:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I follow the band, and it's all stuff that they have said to me and my friends. i know tom has been on this website, and read information that wasn't true, so my friends and i put some information up that was true, so he and other people could read some information that they perhaps didnt know.
 * What a stalker claims to have heard isnt a reliable source.

For information to be included in Wikipedia it has to have been published by reliable and reputable sources. Please see WP:V. Additionally, original research is not allowed (WP:NOR). RicDod 17:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Copyvio
Two of the paragraphs were from external websites, word for word. I've since removed them, please don't add them back in, as it would be a copyright violation. Thanks. -- light darkness (talk) 01:03, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Oops sorry, I just did that. I'll remove them in a sec. Could you show me the website? Because some of that stuff I've seen people add to and some of it I've done myself...so it wasn't all copied but all of it was removed. --Stacey 10:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Just a note to say guitarmasta.net is the website lightdarkness was reffering to. They have the same information as the Wikipedia page and have it as their references which is why I think they got the information from Wikipedia rather than the other way round. I've contacted the owner to make sure though :) --Stacey


 * If in doubt, please reword the paragraphs and cite the site as your source JayKeaton 21:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Date and Number formats
I noticed that throughout the article, dates where linked or not linked; numbers were no. 1, #1, etc. Where a date was a full date, I linked it, if it was a month and year, I left it unlinked, but made sure they all appeared the same (spelled out). Where a number is referenced in the body of the text, I converted the numeral to a word. Where the number was a list denoting ranking, I left it as #n, but made sure they were consistent (no. 1 mixed with #1). I just happened on this while looking at recent changes. There are a lot more editors that have invested more time in this article than I - I just thought I would explain what I did (slightly verbose) -- Geneb1955 Talk / CVU 05:55, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

The Wonderland Tour 2005
I created a page for The Wonderland Tour 2005 DVD. Needs more information though.

Motion In The Ocean
There are two articles for the album. Motion in the Ocean and Motion In The Ocean. I think the correct title is "In The". Should they be merge or redirected or something? Not sure how to do it myself. --Stacey 20:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, my friend did it :) --Stacey 11:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Musical style
I personally think that the "Musical style" needs to be updated. It's been there since I first started editing this article (nearly a year ago?) and must be a bit out of date by now. For instance, they had a noticable image change from Room on the 3rd Floor to Wonderland, so does "Despite the band's pop image and reputation..." still stand? --Stacey 14:23, 23 September 2006 (UTC)


 * On the subject of musical style, I just removed the comparison to Rhoderick Gates of Australia. I don't think he's particularly famous (has he even released anything?), and a Google search doesn't really bring up any information about his music.  He even had a Wikipedia page once and it was deleted after a vote.  At the least, he seems non-notable enough that there's really no point in using him as a reference point to create an impression of McFly's style.  At worst, it could be an attempt to promote him by writing about him on the Wikipedia page of a far more famous band.  If anyone disagrees, though, feel free to provide evidence and add the comparison back in!


 * That comment was from me, by the way. Kingka 04:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Do they even deserve do be in the "pop punk" category? Is there anything 'punk' about McFly? I don't even enjoy punk rock that much so I'm not particularly biased, but is there anything about them which has anything to do with the punk ideology?--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 11:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Just jumped in here after seeing them in the LiLo movie. McFly is a power pop band in the movie. I haven't heard anything else by them, but the movie soundtrack pulled me in from the other room 'cause you so rarely hear power pop. Lacking any objection from the more knowledgeable, I will change the introductory para. Ortolan88 (talk) 00:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My opinion on this is still just put it as pop rock and leave it be. It seems to be the only genre that people agree on. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)