Talk:McGuinn, Clark & Hillman

Supergroup?
I was around in the 60s, when the term “Supergroup” was coined. The first time I saw it used was in reference to Cream, when Clapton, Bruce & Baker left their former bands to create one. Later Crosby left the Byrds, Stills Buffalo Springfield & Nash the Hollies to form another one. McGuinn, Clark & Hillman were all founding members of the Byrds who reunited after becoming famous as Byrds. Therefore, the term supergroup does not seem apt. (In the same era, “Superstar” was coined, which made a difference between the TOP “A-listers” in their fields & the B-Z listers. Today, many use it for anyone with a minor degree of fame. Like the term “Genius,” misuse makes it useless). 38.133.97.42 (talk) 20:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I agree. "Supergroup" seems to mean a group of individuals who had already established themselves in separate bands. Mcguinn, Clark & Hillman were all in the Byrds. It just doesn't seem logical that you subtract two members of the Byrds (Crosby & Clarke) and it becomes a supergroup. 2601:283:8301:820:CC66:7085:7EF6:7019 (talk) 14:03, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, I think the key thing here is that the members themselves didn't consider this group to be the Byrds. It was meant to be a new group that wouldn't have to rely on the Byrds name. That's why they named the group with their surnames, in a manner reminiscent of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. Plus, all three musicians had enjoyed solo careers of varying length and success prior to the formation of McGuinn, Clark & Hillman. So, it's not like it's just the Byrds with two less members: there was a period of some years since the three had worked together. But I do take both your points that the term "supergroup" is usually applied to a grouping of musicians who have already established themselves in separate bands. Given that none of the cited inline sources actually use the word "supergroup", I'm gonna remove the term and simply replace it with "group". --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 16:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)