Talk:McMartin preschool trial

Article name
There were two trials as the article itself states. Why is the article name in the singular? It should be McMartin preschool trials. Robert Brockway (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The second trial was due to a hung jury being called the first time around on some of the charges directed at Ray Buckley. So they're treated as a single prosecution. &mdash;  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 11:55, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Pictures from the FBI file for the finders
I wanted to know why there weren't 1. the map of the school that the FBI had. 2. The preliminary report about the tunnels.Page 47 and 48 Seahorse4418 (talk) 08:30, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


 * This has been dealt with repeatedly, see the Archives. The FBI released everything given to them, including the nonsense files by the Finders that depict tunnels which subsequent investigations never found. They didn't exist. &mdash;  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 16:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Trials - citation and claim wrong?
In the "Trials" section, the first source cited is "Lizard Tales: People and Events in the Life of a Naturalist". I don't have the ability to check every page but I did preview the book and I highly doubt it contains any information relevant to the article, much less the specific statement about the first trial lasting three years (which I doubt; maybe the case did, but the trial itself?)... Hoping someone with more knowledge about this matter can help verify or fix. Al Begamut (talk) 17:01, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Misinformation
The continued investigation part of the article contains misinformation on the searches for potential tunnels—misdating items found and how they might have gotten there. There is a fucking FBI paper on this, I understand the worries of people misusing information to support delusions, but putting in information that is easily proven false does not help this case. 50.107.89.49 (talk) 23:48, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * The "tunnels" did not exist. The FBI paper you're referring to was not produced by the FBI, it was given to them by a man named Gary Stickel. No one was ever able to verify these supposed tunnels, so that paper itself was the misinformation. The FBI just dumped everything they had without comment, they weren't saying any of it was actually credible. This has been discussed before, you can see it in the Archives. —  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 17:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)