Talk:Med Jones

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Hi Guys, can someone help me reorganize the page to comply with the layout guidelines, please? Thanks! Thank you Magioladitis, Yobot and War wizard90 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.31.104.247 (talk) 17:47, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

This website seems a stud. Most of the info is not correctly cited and very suspicious. As an economist I have never heard of Med Jones (before he added me in Linkedin last week). He claims to have "predicted the crises" but there is no proof of this. Most of the documents in which he shows up are very low-brow (an appendix in a memo to a congressman). I would ask some other people to inquire about this and perhaps pull this down. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.130.85.135 (talk) 15:38, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


 * This negative and misleading comment by 131.130.85.135 was posted almost 2 years ago, with no one responding to it. Also one can see from the revision history of the page that there was some vandalism of the text and the links. It appears that Wikipedia does not maintain its pages and no one is monitoring the comments. Maybe an official from IIM should manage this page and respond to such sabotage. The unsigned request by the anonymous Economist to “bring down” the page appears a bit personal and his comment is deliberately misleading. His reference to the “memo” to a congressman in an appendix, is actually a full PhD research report aimed at replacing the current US government GDP economic indicator with a new economic development indicator and that this report is authored by two PhD's at Harvard University and that the appendix that he refers to (see page 81 in the following link) lists the timeline of main economic developments that influenced their proposal. Notice in that timeline how Mr. Jones’ contribution to the development of their proposal is listed in 2006 along other important developments, including the later more famous contributions of the Stiglitz Commission in 2008 and the OECD post- Stiglitz Commission in 2011. The paper can be found at https://web.archive.org/web/20150701192803/https://www.hks.harvard.edu/content/download/67149/1241406/version/1/file/PAE+Beachy_Zorn_2012.pdf .If one visits the profile of Jones at https://www.medjones.com specifically the happiness economics and investment strategy pages, one can see that there are many hyperlinks to papers and citations by professors and researchers at Columbia, Oxford, MIT, HEC France, and some strategists at multi-billion dollar investment firms among others.  The anonymous economist who wants to bring the page down calls such references as low-brow (low intellect) and that if he did not hear about someone or something before, it means it is not true. He must be a big shot economist who is all knowing. The motive behind his unsigned comment is the one the is "very suspicious", to use his own words that he uses to describe others. Nat.Account (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 22:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Clearly, he is recruiting others to delete the profile. It appears he wants to prevent the visibility of another economist’s work. The public IP address 131.130.85.135 that the anonymous economist used to make the comment belong to Vienna University. It could be a visiting or local academic. I think such behavior may violate academic ethics and Wikipedia guidelines on malicious comments and editors’ sensitivity to biographical pages to prevent harm to the reputation of a living person.Jay-11 (talk) 14:30, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I’m an Austrian economist and I participate in some Wikipedia editing, I did not sign this comment, because I do not want to be part of this personal conflict between two economists, but I do have an opinion on such behaviour. I agree with previous responses to the person behind 131.130.85.135 comment. I doubt that he is an Austrian academic, this is uncommon behaviour in Austrian academia. This appears to be a highly political economist. Certainly, he is not a disinterested person. Whatever information he wants deleted must be important to him or her. Maybe he is jealous or maybe he published a competing paper and he is competing for visibility or academic credit. The language of the unsigned disparaging comment suggests that it might be personal. 80.110.32.84 (talk) 13:38, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hello fellow Wikipedians, There should be some deep investigation on this page for false information, or at the very least, verification that is not manufactured and/or managed via anonymous profiles by the subject. With some investigation, you can find that the allegations about predicting the economic crisis and being the originator of Gross National Happiness are put forth by Med Jones alone, and cannot be verified: If you go to https://archive.org/web/ and paste in a URL, you can see when it was first indexed by the Internet Archive (not a guarantee, but a pretty good indicator of when it was first available for the public to read), and how often it’s changed: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.iim-edu.org/associates/medjones/gross-national-happiness-economics-gnh-index-gnh-2.htm tells me that the current GNH page on the International Institute of Management site was created around the same time as Med Jones started editing Wikipedia. But then: https://web.archive.org/web/20131111142335/http://www.iim-edu.org/associates/medjones/grossnationalhappinessgnh.htm shows that there was a previous GNH page there, which was maintained from 2010-2013, and then no longer found in 2015. Looking at the most recent version of that page: https://web.archive.org/web/20131111142335/http://www.iim-edu.org/associates/medjones/grossnationalhappinessgnh.htm I’ve tried following a few of the “Med Jones GNH …” links that go to sits other than iim-edu.org, and so far all the ones that have worked at all have been to work by *other authors* that don’t even seem to quote him!

https://web.archive.org/web/20140715000000*/http://www.iim-edu.org/associates/medjones/index.htm tells me that the institute’s page with his bio has been around since 2010, but I can also see individual snapshots. The first time the acronym “GNH” appeared on it seems to have been in Feb 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20150207213810/http://www.iim-edu.org/associates/medjones/index.htm and the page only started promoting him as “widely quoted on the economics of happiness” in August 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20140829030024/http://www.iim-edu.org/associates/medjones/index.htm The previous version says nothing about that, though it does link to the shady GNH page that lists lot of studies not by him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laura.musikanski (talk) 02:29, 25 September 2019 (UTC)laura musikanski Laura.musikanski (talk • contribs) 02:16, 25 September 2019 (UTC)    Adding here also: Note that while this page has multiple citations, there are not citations from independent and verifiable sources that support the allegations for predicting the 2008 economic crisis before the crisis (seems rather important, no?) and there are no citations for creating the Gross National Happiness Index that are from independent and verifiable sources not manufactured by Med Jones or his website that are prior to 2008, when Bhutan first measured GHN with its Gross National Happiness Index - also seems rather important one would thing. Laura.musikanski (talk) 02:28, 25 September 2019 (UTC)laura musikanski

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