Talk:Meek Mill/Archive 1

Opening heading
This page seems like it was written by his publicist

"Millz"?
Why does it say Meek Millz? His name is Meek Mill —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.171.74.142 (talk) 19:09, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

And he even said on Sucker Free he refers to be called Meek Millio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.144.89.48 (talk) 06:47, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Page name
Why is the page name "Meek Mill (rapper)" when there is no other Meek Mill? Any need for the clarification on something that was already clear? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.97.92.193 (talk) 18:57, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:12, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Meek Mill (rapper) → Meek Mill – Prior moves to the Meek Mill page (or prior creations of a Meek Mill page) were deleted, mainly due to a lack of notability. However, these deletions (and the page being subsequently protected from creation) all transpired more than a year ago. Since then, Meek Mill has gained national (US) notability as a rapper. His radio singles (two Top 25 US rap chart singles, including "Tupac Back") and involvement in a #1 US rap album, Self Made Vol. 1, are also noted within the current Meek Mill (rapper) article. Riphamilton (talk) 06:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Unnecessary disambiguation. Jenks24 (talk) 07:27, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. He just signed to do an LP of his own, so he's certainly notable now. The notability issue isn't a reason to add unnecessary disambiguation anyway. Kauffner (talk) 10:03, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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Notable
I see no indication that Mill is notable. My prod was removed with the explanation "doesn't clearly fail WP:MUSIC, has works that have been ranked on national charts". Hmm. I don't see that. I see that songs he is in have been ranked. WP:MUSIC calls for "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." Clearly this doesn't make, for example, a session musician notable. Mill is not"the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works", he does not have "a record certified gold or higher in at least one country" or "non-trivial coverage ...of an international concert tour", he has not "released two or more albums on a major label", he is not "one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style", he has not "won or been nominated for a major music award", "won or placed in a major music competition", "performed music for a work of media that is notable", "been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio or music television network" or "been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network". Instead, we have one source: an online magazine, whose coverage of him was substantially exaggerated in the article.

I'll let this ride for a few days, hoping for some indication of notability. Then it's off to AfD. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 04:28, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

The charting singles that he was on were released under his name, so it's not really comparable to a session musician. I'm not really sure if a review in Pitchfork counts as a '"'non-trivial, published work," but they reviewed his mixtape here: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15977-dreamchasers/ 71.224.209.86 (talk) 01:47, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Meek Mill is certainly Notable now, this should not even be a question. He has released his first studio album entitled "Dreams and Nightmares" that peaked at number 2 on the billboard top 200 albums for weeks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.86.162.35 (talk) 21:37, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Mixtapes
In the mixtape section of the article, all of his mixtapes as an unsigned artist is not posted. He had several mixtapes from 2006 up to Dreamchasers. Someone add them, please. Dhabullmike (talk) 10:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Meek has also signed more artists not listed under Dream Chasers Records. Meek, as CEO, has signed names like Guordan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.86.162.35 (talk) 21:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Lil Snupe?
Does anyone know if Lil Snupe is officially signed to Dream Chasers Records or not? If so he needs to be added to the Dream Chasers Records Current artists list. HipHopDoc (talk) 10:20, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Well have you found a reliable source that says he is on the record label?  STATic  message me!  16:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Nahright, RealTalkNY, and 2dopeboyz all referred to him as "Meek Mill's artist". There's also several video clips of him and Meek together on YouTube. In one particular clip they're recording in the studio when Lil Snupe boasts about his Dream Chasers connection. That footage can be seen here @ the 1:50 mark. HipHopDoc (talk) 20:05, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah it seems he is signed to the label as I found this HipHopSince1987, HipHopDX. So I am going to go ahead and add him.  STATic  message me!  22:53, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2014
158.123.187.121 (talk) 13:08, 18 March 2014 (UTC) meek mill is 55 years old

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 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sam Sailor Sing 13:15, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Middle name "Rahmeek" edit request
At 0:33 in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV_JHeCBIjM the interviewer asks how Robert Williams came to be called "Meek Mill" and he says "My name Rahmeek," I feel like that would be good to have on this Wikipedia page, or just a reference to that being his name origin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.199.61 (talk) 13:11, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Dream Chasers Records
Mike Davis and Guordan Banks are also signed to Dream Chasers. Mike Davis has been featured on Foreigners from Fabolous mixtape The Soul Tape 3. Guordan Banks has appeared on Dreamchasers 2 and 3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.86.48.215 (talk) 11:48, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2014
Louie V Gutta has been dropped from DreamChaser Records due to him calling the police when he was robbed. His actions made Meek Mill lose the trust he had for him and because of that, he is not a part of Meek's record label. Source: Meek Mill's verified twitter account (@MeekMill)

On October 26, 2012, Meek Mill announced the creation of his own record label, Dream Chasers Records with the flagship artists being Louie V Gutta, Lee Mazin and Goldie.[22] In early 2013 he also signed 17 year old Louisiana rapper Lil Snupe moments after hearing his demo.[23] The label has since released mixtapes by Louie V. Gutta and Lil Snupe.[24]

On June 20, 2013 Dream Chasers artist Lil Snupe was murdered at an apartment building in Winnfield, Louisiana by two gunshots to the chest.[25][26] A warrant was issued for 36 year-old Tony Holden in connection with the shooting.[27] Holden was on the run from police for four days before turning himself in to authorities.[28]

Current artists Goldie Lee Mazin Louie V Gutta Omelly[29] Producers Louie V Gutta

Scales217 (talk) 01:44, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 12:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Not a 2015 album
As previously discussed at Talk:Meek_Mill_discography, Dreams Worth More Than Money has not been released. A new variation on the theme, it is not yet a 2015 album because it has not been released in 2015. Yes, last we heard, it was schedule to be released in 2015. Prior to that, we did not list it as a 2014 album -- which is good, because it wasn't a 2014 album and no longer will be. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 06:31, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Under the "discography" section of this page, it doesn't need to say "Scheduled" because it doesn't say "Released" there either. Nobody (including myself) is implying that this album has already been released. Readers know that 2015 is the current year so they're aware that it's possible the album hasn't been released yet. Adding this to the page does nothing but confuse any readers that might be interested in reading about other rappers other than the specific one SummerPhD has chosen to police.Funkatastic (talk) 06:44, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


 * "Discography is the study and cataloging of published sound recordings ..." As an unreleased (i.e., unpublished) work, Dreams Worth More Than Money does not belong in this artist's discography unless and until it is released. You can mention that the artist has indicated an intention (if they have) to release the work in 2015 in the body of the article, but the discography should only contain released works.  Dwpaul   Talk   06:48, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Fine by me.Funkatastic (talk) 06:51, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj
Why is Nicki Minaj not an associated act? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickiminajfan69 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Associated acts" refers to professional association: "groups of which he or she has been a member; other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together; groups which have spun off from this group; a group from which this group has spun off". Template:Infobox_musical_artist - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 00:35, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Birth location
We have a source for his birth date and several that say he's from Philadelphia. Then we had someone add that he was born in Kingsessing (in Southwest Philly), with no source. I tagged it as needing a source and way letting it ride for a bit before yanking it. Now we're changing it to North Philadelphia without a source? I'm removing the claim before someone decides he's from Manayunk or Belmont. Feel free to add a more specific location with a reliable source. Thanks. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 04:37, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sources still say "Philadelphia". Anyone care for Bella Vista or Fishtown? - Sum mer PhD, v2.0 15:22, 1 June 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tefkasp (talk • contribs)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2015
~ Died 25th July,2015 Via Charged Up~

OrionPaxis (talk) 02:00, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. We need a more specific source so we can verify it. —C.Fred (talk) 02:02, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Associated acts
Per [], the field is for: Minaj and Jay Z have not collaborated with Mill on multiple occasions. Yes, the individuals are significant in his life. As musical acts, however, they are not associated with him. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 19:30, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * ...groups of which he or she has been a member
 * Other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together
 * Groups which have spun off from this group
 * A group from which this group has spun off
 * An unregistered user, editing through T-Mobile, brought up these issues on the wrong editor's talk page. As this is a discussion of content, it belongs here.
 * The editor said, "His name is NOT "Rahmeek" its not about HOW YOU WANT TOO SPELL it. Ut's spelled "Rihmeek" Associated acts are Jayz & Nicki as well". "Associated acts" does not refer to merely other people who are also performers who are part of the subject's life. They are acts (whether groups or individuals) who are connected to the subject as and act through their career. Two performers who are dating, connected through business ventures, married, related, life-long friends, etc. may or may not be associated acts. The criteria are spelled out above. Minaj has recorded one song with Mill. That is not "(collaborating) on multiple occasions". Jay Z isn't even mentioned in the article. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 16:00, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Rimeek
Robert Rihmeek Williams|title=ROCNATION

The source says "Rihmeek". If you would like to spell it any other way, you will need a reliable source. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 19:36, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The same unregistered T-Mobile editor took issue here. Some time between my comment and now, Roc Nation changed their mind about how they want "too" spell it. The source now says "Rameek". That's a D for Roc Nation for such a basic mistake, a C for eventually checking their page and correcting it and an F in communication. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 16:09, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2015
Died July 29th 2015

167.187.101.239 (talk) 10:32, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 13:39, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Which is it?
In two places:


 * "Mill was arrested for illegally possessing a firearm when he was 18 years old and was beaten up the police. He was then charged for assaulting the police."

Is this a statement that Mr Mill was beaten up by the police or that he offended by beating up police officers? It's presented as an objective account but cited with first-person assertion. Rt3368 (talk) 07:59, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Spelling of name
I know that it is cited to his own record label, but his girlfriend is complaining about the spelling of the name here to her 30.8 million followers on Instagram, so I am going to be bold and change it. Gamaliel ( talk ) 02:40, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The subject's girlfriend's posts on Instagram are not a reliable source. Changing content to disagree with a cited source without citing a new source isn't bold, it's vandalism.  When a source is found that spells his middle name Rihmeek, it should be changed; until that time, it should remain as our source spells it: Rahmeek.  General Ization   Talk   02:56, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * So here's a question: is this source usable for the spelling of his name?  General Ization   Talk   03:05, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The subject of the article and his partner might contend that replacing a source known to be wrong, publicly stated to be wrong by parties in a position to know, and reported in news media to be wrong is what is actually vandalism. Insisting that a dubious source is correct over the word of living individuals that we can verify are in a position to know is harmful to those individuals and bad for the reputation of Wikipedia. If you think Minaj is wrong about her own partner's name, fine, you can remove the name from the article, but as per usual WP:BLP practice, please do not restore a source that has been so publicly disputed until this situation is resolved.  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 03:33, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * There is not "vandalism" here. Vandalism is a deliberate attempt to compromise the project. You both have Wikipedia's best interests in mind, just differing opinions on how to handle this situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SummerPhDv2.0 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I admit to engaging in some hyperbole there. I was making the point that our cited sources shouldn't be "boldly" discounted purely because someone posts conflicting information on their Instagram account, and that another source needed to be found to support the revision.  General Ization  Talk   04:43, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Please see my question above. I did not revert your edit; instead, I went about finding a source for what we presume now to be the correct spelling (but for which, under WP:BLP, we need a citation of a reliable, published source, regardless of what you and/or I may personally believe, or how reasonable that belief may be).  General Ization   Talk   03:55, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That's a reasonable stance to take. My main objection is to restoring the disputed source.  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 13:16, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * If you dig through the page history and the discussion above, you'll see Mill's label originally spelled it "Rihmeek". Various IPs changed this, without explanation to "Rahmeek" or "Rameek". All were reverted, following that source. Then, we finally got an IP who made an argument (kind of) that it was "Rihmeek", again with no source. Then, the site changed it to "Rameek". The original source is now gone. The new page says "Rahmeek". Oh, but Nicki Minaj says it's "Rihmeek". Great.


 * Mill's label is a reliable source. If that is Minaj's official account, it is reliable as well. This means we can report both (as is often done with people who decide several years into their careers to shave a couple of years off their ages). It's clunky and looks stupid, but it's a solution until Mill says (on one of his accounts) what it actually is or ROC decides to clear up their mess. It makes Wikipedia look bad? No, it makes ROC look bad. It's pretty basic information and they've changed it before, maybe they can get a final answer and fix it? - Sum mer PhD v2.0 04:23, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I have added the artist's music publisher as a reliable source for the artist's correct name, including the spelling of his middle name. Presumably, if the artist is cashing the checks made out to him by his publisher using that name, it is the correct name.    General Ization   Talk   04:27, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Excellent find, thank you.  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 13:16, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * It should make Roc look bad, but we're the ones being called out on Instagram to 30 million people, and fair or not, we will be the ones to get the blame. The Roc isn't an unimpeachable source that we know has been thoroughly vetted and fact-checked, it is a promo page probably created by a record label intern.  To continue to use it after it has been so publicly disputed would be irresponsible of us.   Gamaliel  ( talk ) 13:16, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Image
This image of Mill and Nicki Minaj is published on Flickr under a CC-BY-SA-2.0 license, and therefore could be cropped to feature only Meek Mill. It is posted under the Just Entertainment account, which may or may not be affiliated with Just Entertainment. MB298 (talk) 01:14, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Same image is shown here with exact same caption. MB298 (talk) 20:26, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2016
DC4 should be removed from the Discography section on Meek Mill's main page because it is a commercial mixtape, not a studio album/LP. The project is in the same realm as Drake's If You're Reading This, It's Too Late. 134.192.6.50 (talk) 15:24, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2017

 * Is an American rapper.
 * Spaces between occupation. 2A02:C7D:5E02:2E00:5DA4:F6A0:4E80:843B (talk) 12:43, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Occupation
Rapper, singer, songwriter Meek Mill is an American rapper. Please fix and spaces between occupation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Juelz (talk • contribs) 19:14, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2017
Please change "On March 11, 2017, Mill was arrested at a local airport in St. Louis, Missouri for assaulting two pedestrians. Shortly after his arrest and court appearance, he was given a court summons." to "On March 11, 2017, Mill was arrested at a local airport in St. Louis, Missouri for assaulting two pedestrians. Shortly after his arrest and court appearance, he was given a court summons. On Monday November 6, 2017, Mill was sentenced to two to four years in state prison for violating is parole."

Source: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/11/06/meek-mill-sentenced-prison/ Toluoyekan (talk) 03:07, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done If you make just 7 more edits you'll be autoconfirmed and be able to edit the page. Hope you'll do so. &thinsp;&mdash; Ammarpad (talk) 03:55, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2017
Please add this to the very end of the "Legal Issues" section: "On December 1, 2017, Meek Mill was denied bail by Philadelphia judge, Genece Brinkley, because she claims he is a "danger to the community". Meek Mill's attorney, Brian J. McMonagle, gave this statement to NBC News following the decision. "He has never missed any court dates and poses absolutely no threat to the community making him an ideal candidate for bail, a conclusion the District Attorney did not oppose. We intend to immediately appeal this decision so Mr. Williams can be released from prison while we continue to work to overturn this wrongful and unjust sentence."

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/meek-mill-will-stay-prison-judge-says-rapper-danger-community-n826286 Flycastpartners (talk) 18:24, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * ❌. There is no good reason to add the boilerplate stuff from his attorney, so much so that the similar stuff already in the article ought to be removed. Given the scrutiny surrounding this judge, I would only consider this if the extremely loaded phrase "she claims" were replaced with something a little less skeptical.  City O f  Silver  19:24, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Feud with 50 Cent
We should add and follow the feud against 50 cent, this is another controversy along with Drake's one.

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2018
The last paragraph under legal issues states "An FBI investigation was launched into the conduct of the judge presiding over his case." The citation for this statement links to a page that appears to report entertainment news and claims only that an anonymous source indicated that there was an FBI investigation. The FBI apparently issued the standard Glomar response and did not confirm this at all. The anonymous source could have been an interested party. The strongest possible statement supported by the citation is that "There have been reports of FBI investigation into the conduct of the judge presiding over his case." Even that feels like its inclusion in the official wikipedia article gives it a little more authority than it deserves, but at least it's accurate and true. 2601:C1:C001:F6D4:E130:2727:F7A4:1C79 (talk) 06:48, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅: I have rewritten the sentence to address your concern. Thank you for identifying this issue. '''[[User:Life of Tau|Life ]][[User talk:Life of Tau|of ]]Tau''' 09:57, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I've added another citation where the defense team brings it up in a court filing. The report is by an NPR affiliate. MartinezMD (talk) 12:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2018
The photo should be changed to reflect a clear image of Mr. Williams - he is currently in the background of this low-quality photo.

http://press.atlanticrecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Meek-Mill-Main-Pub-2-Photo-Credit_20K-hi-res.jpg This photo is available as a press-released free use resource on press.atlanticrecords.com.
 * ✅: I've made this change myself after confirmation.

Dmezh (talk) 22:11, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Civil suit v. criminal proceedings
I found the last few paragraphs initially confusing as it read, once it started saying the FBI was investigating the "judge in his case", which, until you read further, could have been any of the proceedings mentioned earlier in the text (on Wikipedia, it is not a given that the paragraph was actually referring to the one preceeding it, as inexperienced editors and IPs sometimes just insert text without regard to coherence). In any case, for a BLP with this much legal content, just makes sense to divide/distinguish civil and criminal cases. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 18:07, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The FBI investigation was for the judge in his parole violation case, so I moved that into the criminal section. MartinezMD (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Edit Request 5-21-2018
The way the Legal Issues section begins is very confusing as it starts by saying he was put on probation and then jumps ahead in his legal troubles to being arrested 4 times for parole violations. Parole is a legal status that is only used for people leaving prison, he cannot go from being on probation to being on parole. The legal issues section would be improved if it followed a sequential order to how the legal events actually occured instead of skipping around pell mell. Please change the article so that it covers his conviction, then his parole, then his arrests for violation of parole as this would be the logical order to talk about those things. I would say how to do this specifically as the template mentions but it will require quite a significant amount of editing and think it would be better left to the discretion of whomever decides to undertake the edit request. It makes no sense to introduce that section of the article by stating he was put on probation when 18 and then subsequently arrested for parole vioations without first explaining how he wound up on parole in the first place.

Darkbenrg (talk) 05:24, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
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Mill was arrested for illegally possessing a firearm and assaulting a policeman when he was 18 years old. He was put on probation. Since then, he has been arrested four times for parole violation.[4][6] Eliminate the second sentence from the statement above and replace it with the following section.

In 2008, Mill was convicted of drug dealing and gun possession and was sentenced to 11 to 23 months in prison by Judge Genece Brinkley[47]. After Mill's 2008 conviction, Brinkley would continue to handle Mill's further legal cases. Mill was released during the early portion of 2009 under a five-year parole agreement.[4][48][49][50] In December 2012, Mill was found to have violated his probation and the judge revoked Mill's travel permit.[51] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:285:200:3ac:a191:dd97:8be4:6d2a (talk • contribs) 05:05, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
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Prison is not jail
In legal issues, second paragraph, last two sentences. Jail and prison are not the same thing. Please change to avoid confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.48.14.254 (talk) 17:37, 8 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Prison is not jail, but where is the error in the article? His sentencing and the information about both appear accurate. MartinezMD (talk) 00:37, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Look where I said. If you're sentenced to time in jail then you would be released from jail not prison... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.31.142 (talk • contribs)


 * Got it, I see it now. The issue is that the reported sources called it both - sentenced to jail but released from prison. I reviewed the sources, he was at the Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility which is described as "classified as city jail, located in Philadelphia, PA". I will make a correction and add a note. MartinezMD (talk) 04:35, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2018
His 4th album has a name now, its called Championship, here's the source his instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BqP7MZTHNAl/ 173.80.169.126 (talk) 17:34, 16 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I added it using a reference with a little more information. MartinezMD (talk) 18:26, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Criminal status
His only conviction has been vacated and a new trial ordered. The accusations against him are extremely dubious at this point. This article and talk page shouldn't categorize him as a criminal until he is re-convicted (not likely). <b style="color: #0066cc;">—Мандичка</b><b style="color: #6600cc;">YO</b> 😜 00:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I was WP:BOLD and removed the categories. It seems grossly unfair and biased to label him as a criminal. <b style="color: #0066cc;">—Мандичка</b><b style="color: #6600cc;">YO</b> 😜 00:26, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

False. Meek Mill was arrested and convicted for illegal firearm possession and assaulting a police officer when he was 18. There has been no controversy about that conviction as far as I can tell. The 2008 conviction is the one that was overturned and now contested. So Meek Mill is indeed a criminal by the standard of having been convicted when he was 18 with no formal legal dispute currently. Of course the numerous violations of probation terms including alleged assault of apparently innocent people who just suffered the misfortune of Mills presence would lead to a "where there's fires there's fire" kinda situation. This guy is a violent out of control criminal from an early age who continues to be a menace and only has special consideration due to his his cultural situation. He has walked,quacked, been convicted as, and continues to be accused by seemingly unrelated and innocent people of being a very nasty and violent criminal duck.2600:1700:6D90:79B0:DD50:DD8:6D06:4EBC (talk) 03:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I've seen no evidence he was convicted at age 18 of another crime prior to the one arrest in which he was charged with 19 counts and "convicted" of two with the only witness being a disgraced cop who was later exposed as dirty. This is a timeline of his legal problems. What is your source? <b style="color: #0066cc;">—Мандичка</b><b style="color: #6600cc;">YO</b> 😜 17:42, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Meek's Judge off the Case
Hello, I am following the news about Meek Mill's case and someone forgot to update the fact that the Supreme Court removed Brinkley from his case and he got a new judge and his conviction was overturned.

Please update it under legal issues, thanks.

Billspinge234 (talk) 21:31, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thank you! <b style="color: #0066cc;">—Мандичка</b><b style="color: #6600cc;">YO</b> 😜 03:14, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Eagles Tool The Field To Meek Mill's Dreams And Nightmares
I think it should be noted that the Philadelphia Eagles took the field to Meek Mill's "Dreams and Nightmares" before playing in Super Bowl LII at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Especially since several Eagles players voiced their support for Mill ahead of the Super Bowl. "Dreams and Nightmares" was all over Philadelphia that season.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/04/philadelphia-eagles-meek-mill-super-bowl-lii-dreams-and-nightmares-entrance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smithianp (talk • contribs) 13:50, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2020
Mill is currently dating fashion mogul, Milan Harris CEO of Milano Di Rouge they are expecting their first child together. Meek also has a son, from a previous relationship with Fahimah Raheem. Unicorn616 (talk) 22:47, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  JTP (talk • contribs) 03:24, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Edits to the "Activism"section
I added further detail on Meek's organization REFORM, with additional insight on their mission, team, and actions. Snwashing (talk) 03:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC) <https://reformalliance.com/partners> <https://reformalliance.com/#about> <https://www.vulture.com/2019/01/jay-z-meek-mill-launch-prison-reform-alliance-pledge-usd50m.html>

Associated acts, again
Per [], the field is for: Someone might be significant in his life but, as a musical act, however, not meet the criteria for associated acts. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 02:30, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ...groups of which he or she has been a member
 * Other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together
 * Groups which have spun off from this group
 * A group from which this group has spun off

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2021
MEEK MILL ONLY HAS 2 CHILDREN. NOT 3. Murad Williams and Rihmeek Williams. Taythetruth300 (talk) 08:24, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ◢ <i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i>  (Say hi!) 08:33, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2021
Meek mill only has 2 children. Not 3. His sons Rihmeek and Murad. Taythetruth300 (talk) 20:11, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

He does not have 3 children. Only 2. Taythetruth300 (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Per what source does he only have two? The Us Weekly story cited in the article says he has three. —C.Fred (talk) 21:14, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request
Change under Controversies > Feuds > 6ix9ine - remove "On another occasion, he called out Mill for hypocrisy because of his association with another informant, Roc Nation CEO Desiree Perez.[118]" Replace the quoted section with - "On another occasion, he called out Mill for hypocrisy."

Basis: In the cited reference [118] the article does not call Ms. Perez an informant, rather it states she cooperated. Additionally, per it is again stated that Ms. Perez was not an informant, but simply that she cooperated with the US Attorney's office. Per informants and cooperators are different and their participation in criminal cases also differ. On the basis of Ms. Perez's pardon her name should be removed as this statement reads slanderous and contrary to the facts of the situation as laid out above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DPhillipsRN (talk • contribs)


 * Looks like you should be able to edit this article yourself, and you indeed have; closing. &#8209;&#8209;Volteer1 (talk) 17:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

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Confusion about age and early criminal offenses
It seems three things need to be clarified—and this is my understanding—although I'm happy to be corrected: Would appreciate any feedback; again, I'm not sure I'm correct, but the above appears to be the case based on the cited sources. If anyone has confirmation—or contrary information—it would be great to have it before making any changes. Thanks kindly! ElleTheBelle 19:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) From what I've read, the "2005-06: Police brutality and first arrest" and "2008: Drug and gun conviction" refer to the same arrest and conviction. I wasn't able to find any supporting information in the cited sources for the claims about him being arrested and sentenced only to probation.
 * 2) Several sources appear to agree that Mills was arrested for gun possession (which he admits), drug offenses, and assault on a police officer in 2007—and convicted of at least some of those crimes in 2008. None of the cited sources seem to refer to arrests or other criminal matters in 2005 or 2006.
 * 3) Some of the confusion seems to be Mills reporting his age as 18 at the time—if the birthdate given in our article is accurate, he would have to have been either 19 or 20 when arrested and 20 or 21 when convicted.
 * 4) When using Wikivoice, it's critical to clarify that Mills has merely  alleged  he was brutalized by the police. I'm aware of no legal or investigative finding that the alleged brutality took place, nor of anyone even corroborating his alleged injuries, let alone claiming that he suffered them as the result of police violence, or that that alleged violence was illegal or improper. We do know that he was arrested for assault on an officer (although one source claims that this was for pointing his gun at officers).

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