Talk:Megan Marcks

Requested move 3 September 2016

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The result of the move request was: not moved. There is a strong consensus that we should follow reliable sources, and the subject's preference, and keep the article where it is.  Calidum   ¤   05:38, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Megan Marcks → Megan Still – The person is known through competitive rowing, retired in 1997, and in 2000 still went by her maiden name. The article doesn't say when she got married, but it would have been sometime after 2000. She is thus much better known by her maiden name than her married name. The current article title, i.e. her married name, is contrary to MAIDEN, where it is stated that "the general rule in such cases is to title the article with the name by which the person is best known" (emphasis as per the source). Searching for '"Megan Marcks" site:au' and '"Megan Still" site:au' returns 169 and 684 results, respectively. Given that moves in accordance with WP:MAIDEN are sometimes controversial, I thought that going through a formal move request is best.  Schwede 66  00:52, 3 September 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Sam Sailor 00:36, 11 September 2016 (UTC) )

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 * Comment – According to WP:NAMECHANGES: Sometimes, the subject of an article will undergo a change of name. When this occurs, COMMONNAME still applies, but we give extra weight to sources written after the name change is announced. If the sources written after the change is announced routinely use the new name, Wikipedia should follow suit and change relevant titles to match. So, my question is, does the subject herself use her married name and does reliable sources use her married name? When she was married is irrelevant to the requested move.  CookieMonster755   𝚨-𝛀    23:24, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment – Sydney Morning Harold, National Library of Australia and the Sport Australia Hall of Hame use her married name. From a quick Google Search, the subject seems to use her married name. So I am going to Oppose this requested move per WP:NAMECHANGES. The subject uses her married name and reliable sources use that name for the subject. Wikipedia needs to respect that many woman want to be known by their married name after marriage.  CookieMonster755   𝚨-𝛀    23:29, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Just for clarification, the date of marriage can be relevant because if it happens before the athlete retires from competitive sport, it's more common that the married name has become the common name.  Schwede 66  00:28, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg Relisted - please add new comments below this notice. — Sam Sailor 00:36, 11 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Support. The COMMONAME + MAIDENNAME considerations appear to outweigh the NAMECHANGES one. This person does not appear to be notable for anything under the current, married name, other than a few post-retirement honors, all for activities under the original name. If she's referred to as Megan Still-Marcks in some sources, that might be a preferable alternative  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  00:39, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment – I would support Megan Still-Marcks or Megan Still Marcks. But it is clear the she does not use her maiden name anymore.  CookieMonster755   𝚨-𝛀    02:21, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Married name If the LP has moved on from their maiden name, then so should we.  Just redirect from her maiden name to her married name.  Any issue of finding her by her sporting period name then is a non issue.  Aoziwe (talk) 13:38, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose Generally, people get to pick their own name Red Slash 18:52, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Per WP:NAMECHANGES, we give more weight to sources that have come out since the name change. This athlete is consistently referred to as "Megan Marcks" in sources since her marriage. I think this is something better handled in the article text than in the title.--Cúchullain t/ c 19:23, 27 September 2016 (UTC)


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