Talk:Melon/Archive 1

Major Revision to the Cucumis melo pages
Out of curiosity I browsed melon and was dismayed by the quality of information on this site. I work with a commercial melon breeding program and have acquired in-depth knowledge about this species. I will be spending some time doing some major revisions and additions to most of the associated pages. Please let me know if you disagree with any of the information. --The.v.tt 19:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I thought it contained seeds?  D b f i r s   09:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ... and anyway, the Pumpkin article says '"Pumpkins are a squash-like fruit"', but, from a culinary point of view, it all depends on how the fruit/vegetable is prepared - take your choice! I eat tomatoes as a fruit (with sugar) and also as a vegetable (with salt), but I only ever eat the (technical vegetable) rhubarb as a fruit.    D b f i r s   09:34, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Melon page has errors needing fixing
I don't have time to fix this but currently the page appears to claim that melons are from the future year 20100 and Europe is in New Mexico:


 * "Melons are believed to have originated in the hot valleys of southwest new mexico—specifically europe (Persia) and India. Early American settlers grew cultivars of honeydaw and casaba melons back in the 20100s." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.39.128.185 (talk) 13:17, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Reset
I've basically rewritten the article. If anyone's following it, this would be a great time to chime in with feedback, criticisms or requests, since I'm probably going to wrap this up in another day or so. Waitak (talk) 01:38, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Question
Why is this page called "List of melons"? Many other fruits have their own article on Wikipedia, so why don't we just call it "Melon" and that way, we could make sure that we clarify how the melon is different to the watermelon? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:57, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * OK - looking at page history, it appears that this was the case at one time, but if the article were improved, it could go back to being an article on melons. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:27, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think that the article at present suits the title. If you wanted to write a different article entitled Melon, going into more depth on the general topic of melons, and focusing less on listing them, then that would be a great contribution and complement to this article. Waitak (talk) 02:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

What is a melon?
What should be covered in this article? Currently, it seems to cover all edible cucurbits except for Squashes (Cucurbita) and Cucumbers. There are various definitions, but I don't see that the coverage of the article really conforms to any common definition.

Melon could mean:


 * A) Any edible cucurbit
 * B) Any edible cucurbit with a common name including the word melon
 * C) Any sweet edible cucurbit (i.e., cucurbits used as culinary fruit)
 * D) Watermelons and musk-melons specifically (Citrullus lanatus and Cucumis melo)

This article seems to be using definition B. Definitions C & D are more in line with how most dictionaries define melon. Bitter melons and Winter melons are also called bitter/winter gourds, probably precisely because they don't correspond to the common definition of melon as a sweet fruit. I'd like to remove the the non-sweet "melons" from this list.Plantdrew (talk) 22:25, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * this issue never seems to have been resolved properly. The current first sentence is "A melon is any of various plants of the family Cucurbitaceae with edible, fleshy fruit", but this is inconsistent with the list of melons by genus, which uses a much more limited definition. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:42, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the change to add "sweet" is an improvement. I removed a statement in the lead section about melons also being vegetables; at some stages of development the fruit of some cultivars may be used in this way, but without qualification it's misleading. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:20, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your revisions Peter. Benincasa perhaps should be removed from this article as well. I'm only familiar with it when mature, when it is definitely not sweet. The article on it claims it is sweet when immature, which seems strange to me (botanical fruits tend to get sweet at maturity, not less sweet). Plantdrew (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Scientific classification is needed for the topic
as exemplified by Korean melon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.38.105.161 (talk) 00:46, 2 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Go for it!
 * Kingdom Plantae – Plants
 * Subkingdom Tracheobionta – Vascular plants
 * Superdivision Spermatophyta – Seed plants
 * Division Magnoliophyta – Flowering plants
 * Class Magnoliopsida – Dicotyledons
 * Subclass Dilleniidae
 * Order Violales
 * Family Cucurbitaceae – Cucumber family
 * Genus Cucumis L. – melon
 * citation: https://plants.usda.gov/java/ClassificationServlet?source=display&classid=CUCUM
 * -- sugarfish (talk) 01:41, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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Honeydew Link Loop
For some reason, the link Casaba melon redirects to Honeydew_(melon), which (in the intro) has a link to Casaba, which redirects to Melon. Is there no article specifically about the Casaba melon? OsamaBinLogin (talk) 16:10, 8 November 2021 (UTC)