Talk:Memphis Jug Band

Untitled
I basically left this as it stood. I have quite of few of their recordings and they evoke a certain nostalgia but I am not convinced their contribution to American music deserves a longer entry than this in a general encyclopedia. In a specialised reference work, there would be a lot more to say. However, I have left the stud invitation in place for anyone else to add if they feel the band deserve it in this context.

David91


 * Ahem, I hope that you meant "stub invitation"... Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 22:02, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

You're Kidding, Right?
The Memphis Jug Band is one of the most important blues ensembles of the 20th century. They deserve a lot more mention than they were given when i found the page, so i added more band member names and a bit of other stuff. Criminetlies, band width isn't THAT expensive, is it? Catherineyronwode 08:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Burse - "Bursey"?
Hi - does anyone have a reference to Charlie Burse's surname being pronounced "Bursey"? I assume this is from a recorded interview? Thanks. --RobHutten 16:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Sam Charter's "American Skiffle Bands" record contains a joint interview with Shade and Burse. Shade speaks first, then introduces Burse using the "Bursey" pronunciation. ArloLeach (talk) 20:20, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Son / Sun Brimmer
I've re-added Son Brimmer as an alternate name for Will Shade. Samuel Charters (Sweet As the Showers of Rain), who wrote at length on the MJB, used "Son" and explains that he was called Son Brimmer because he'd been raised by a woman named Annie Brimmer. The record label's use of "Sun Brimmer Blues" may just have been their sloppiness.Chris k 12:26, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Vague Citations
As I make edits some of the citations might no longer apply. In some cases it's not clear what fact they were supporting. Specifically:

- The first sentence said the group was "active from the mid 1920s to the early to mid 1930s," with a citation. But the group was photographed performing together in 1941, and spoke in interviews about performing through 1958. I'm guessing the original citation referred to the group's recording activity, which lasted from 1927 to 1934, but I think performing counts as activity, too. I changed the time period and changed the citation to a different book that addresses the performing activity.

- The last sentence in the first paragraph said the group recorded "almost 100 sides." The number is closer to 80, but it's difficult to count exactly since many sides were issued under pseudonyms or individual band members' names. I changed this to a comparison to other jug bands, which might be more meaningful to some readers (the 80 figure is still included later in the article) and changed the reference to the Blues and Gospel Records discography, which would provide the best information for verification.

- The part about Memphis Minnie says the Memphis Jug Band recorded with her "when the band's career was winding down," citing the Garon biography of Memphis Minnie. Although that is a direct quote from the book, I think it's misleading in this context. While it's true that Minnie was relatively new in the recording business and went on to become a big star, the Memphis Jug Band recorded more sides the month of this session than any previous month in their careers, and recorded even more sides in their 1932 and 1934 sessions. I think the citation still works here since it contains other useful info about this event, but with a different emphasis since this article is about MJB rather than Minnie.

ArloLeach (talk) 20:40, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Photo Usage
I removed the photo because it is not the Memphis Jug Band. (Author Bengt Olsson, who used it on the cover of his book "Memphis Blues and Jug Bands" in 1970, told me that it was one of Will Batt's groups.) It's sad to not have any photo here, but the copyright guidelines on the photo upload page are intimidating.

I think the most representative photos of the group would be their 1927 Victor publicity photo, or the Memphis World photo from the late 1930's, but I don't know how to acquire permission for these. I've tried to track down the Memphis World, but it has gone out of business. Does anyone have advice on this?
 * Your best bet (opinion) is to spend some quality time looking over the Fair Use requirements and then going that route. I'll try it too. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 21:46, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

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