Talk:Men in Black (1997 film)

Is this it?
This is pathetic, there need to be more info on this! What about the MIB themepark ride? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.1.55 (talk) 08:21, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

And what about the gadgets? I got directed here from a "neuralizer" link... (You know, I would write something, but then again...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.126.0.42 (talk) 01:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * As you said... 8)
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The Elvis 8-track tape that K plays in the Lincoln Tunnel Scene
What album is that? It sounds pretty good. 147.145.40.44 00:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

That 8 track says on: ELVIS Promised Land RandomCake (talk) 13:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomCake (talk • contribs) 12:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

The Tycho Treaty
Why is the Tycho Treaty always being deleted from this site? That section is true, I don't know why there's such a problem with it. You're all wrong about one thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.37.45.49 (talk) 02:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It's being deleted because this article is about the film Men in Black, not some non-notable (a Google search on "The Tycho Treaty" +band only brings back 31 returns) band who happened to make an album with a MIB theme. This band had nothing to do with the film, and the continual re-insertion of irrelevant information comes off as a transparent attempt at self-promotion. TheRealFennShysa 03:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * technically it's not self-promotion. i am a friend of the band. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 160.39.188.109 (talk) 05:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Is that supposed to help your argument? You just proved the point that the aim of adding the band is to promote an unknown band, not to add further information on the film. -- 70.58.92.168 (talk) 20:56, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Reference to X-Files series
I just added a paragraph called Trivia that contains reference to an episode of the X-Files TV series which also used the same theme as the movie. However, this has been removed. Is there any reason why such a reference should not be included? I thought it would be interesting to see how the same theme, based upon the comic series, is used in multiple creative expressions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.150.80.101 (talk) 21:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
 * It was removed because you have no references citing that The X-Files actually used The Men in Black as their inspiration for that episode, only your own impression of that idea - one which you originally posted as The X-Files influencing The Men in Black, which is impossible, due to the timeline. What you posted was not based on published facts, but personal opinion - which should be avoided. TheRealFennShysa 22:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed another page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28The_X-Files%29) stating the link with X-Files already, so problem solved :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.150.80.101 (talk) 17:58, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Chief "Zed"
In the article Rip Torn is credited as playing the role of chief "Zed". Now, in the film, virtually every member of the Men in Black organization is represented by a letter. Now, "Zed" can be a man's name, however it is also a pronunciation of the letter "Z" (pronounced "zee" in America). Now, is his name actually "Zed", or is it simply the pronunciation used for the letter "Z" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.7.120 (talk) 22:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The credits list him as "Zed" -- I can't recall if his name was ever seen written in the actual film, but the credits seem a reliable source to spell it out. 129.170.31.68 (talk) 15:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It is also spelled out as Zed in the close captioning. Niteshift36 (talk) 08:07, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Zed = zee = letter "Z". Yours, Wordreader (talk) 17:38, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Final Scene
I have made a small edit to the section on the final scene which stated that the marbles which contained earth, the solar system and beyond were Galaxies because this wouldn't make sense, if our Galaxy were contained within a marble and it were moved around by an alien hand and we couldn't see that hand then this would mean we wouldn't be able to see outside our Galaxy, which we can. Also if it were only a Galaxy and for some reason we didn't see the alien and only the other marbles then the huge movements seen would mean we would see other Galaxies suddenly close to us, and then far away. Because of these reasons I feel that the only reasonable explanation is that these marbles contain whole universes (yes, I know a 'universe' is technically all that is, but I don't know any better word for what appears to be contained within the marbles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomCake (talk • contribs) 09:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, a marble contains a whole universe. We see galaxies within the final shot. Alientraveller (talk) 11:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You do not understand that it is supposed to be a joke. I does not have to and, indeed, does not actually make sense. The whole movie was about a galaxy on Orion's belt, not a universe. Andy120290 (talk) 19:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * We're talking about the marbles the aliens play with, not Orion's belt. Alientraveller (talk) 19:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I think to much is being read into the ending of Men in Black. As stated above I was under the impression that it was just a joke. Sometimes things in films just dont make sence. MattyC3350 (talk) 07:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The ending now identifies the alien as an 'Arquillian' despite the earlier Arquillian inside the robot body clearly having a different design (not translucent, regular hands, etc). Unless there's a source from a word of god, this seems like it should be omitted.86.23.166.196 (talk) 05:34, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Awards
Just wondering... if this movie won a Saturn award, why is it only mentioned in the little box at the bottom, and not in the reception section?--RainbowWerewolf (talk) 18:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Spelling of the acronym
At the beginning of the movie, when K brings J to drink after he erased his memory, he gives him a card where "MiB" is spelled with a lowercase "i". Should we replace all the istances of "MIB" with "MiB" in this and all the related articles? Nineko (talk) 03:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps any instances where the acronym is used for the agency should be corrected, but when used in reference to the film, the acronym MIB should be used, as that is how the film was promoted.STAR TREK enthusiast Open channel 02:16, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

The spaceship in the final scene
I haven't find the location of the 'spaceships' the cockroach was climbing to. What is that place? Yuval Y §  Chat  § 12:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * They're the observation towers at the site of the 1964 New York World's Fair, in Queens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.217.26 (talk) 18:26, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks ㋡ Yuval Y  §  Chat  § 12:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Plot section
The plot section of this article seems to focus largely on the nature of MiB. In my opinion, a very brief intro to MiB should be given, and the rest of the section should focus on the plot. Additionally, the scene with our entire galaxy being in a marble is very, very insignificant. For it to make sense for this to be included in this plot section, the section would have to go into much more detail about the rest of the film, as well.STAR TREK enthusiast Open channel 02:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree completely. I think the first paragraph of the Story section could use a few more sentences at the end, and the second paragraph should be removed entirely. The plot of the movie has already ended by this final scene; the scene only exists to give the movie a more surprising close. ~ Jace 18:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justus87 (talk • contribs)

Factual inaccuracies
This movie shows nothing of what the real Men in Black do. The real MIB are heavily involved in a secret government conspiracy to aid an evil race of aliens in their sinister plan to colonize the earth. They will stop at nothing to keep the truth from being heard until its too late. They intimidate witnesses, wage misinformation campaigns, slander those who attempt to inform the public in order to discredit them, and even do assassinations. Byers 27 (talk) 08:00, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

References to use

 * Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.


 * —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erik (talk • contribs) 19:16, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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Agent Zed
I don't see why Z is credited as Zed, in the credits of mib2, all agent are spelled phoneticly, i mean J is written Jay, K, Kay, T is written Tee. Chief Zed if actually chief Z — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.156.78.98 (talk) 00:58, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Considering that the names are like that in the credits but the lockers in the movies arn't I don't think it's much of an issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.191.139 (talk) 01:54, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Other countries say "Zed" instead of "Zee". I know Canada is one. They probably just picked it up from that concept. But as 24.63 says, it's really not much of an issue, especially for our purposes. Millahnna (talk) 02:10, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Like Millahanna said. Also, see the "Chief "Zed"" discussion above. Yours, Wordreader (talk) 17:41, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Help needed
Can anybody help me in making a Men in Black (franchise) portal. I think it's a good franchise, and most of all, with the upcoming 3D movie, many articles in the franchise need updating. I hope anybody or somebody can help112.198.217.185 (talk) 03:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Length of plot summary
The plot summary was excessively long: it should be around 700 words or so. I have trimmed it down somewhat although I didn't yet check what the word count is now. Invertzoo (talk) 21:59, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Synopsis improvements
I've made some improvements to the plot summary, mostly to avoid repetitions of words and to help with legibility. -Mardus (talk) 02:31, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

"The Men in Black" (1992) film?
FWIW - seems there is a "The Men in Black" (1992) film, rated 7.8 of 10.0 (above average), on the IMBD website - but no mention whatsoever afaik on Wikipedia? - not much information seems to be available on the internet after a casual search - nonetheless, perhaps this film may be worth mentioning in one (or more) of the "Men in Black" Wikipedia articles? - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 14:01, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 20 June 2017

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure).  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  06:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Men in Black (film) → Men in Black (1997 film) – Enhanced qualifier would resolve the incomplete disambiguation from Men in Black (1934 film). &mdash;Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:56, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Support per WP:NCF.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 16:53, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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non cast in cast list
listing people that were not cast in certain rolls such as Clint Eastwood under Agent K's, Chris O'Donnell and David Schwimmer under Agent J's as well as John Turturro and Bruce Campbell being listed as not playing the bug, wouldn't those be better suited in a casting section TacfuJecan (talk) 22:12, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Spielberg
Spielberg is mentioned briefly in the production section, but his role in the film isn't properly explained anywhere in the article AFAIK. This should be improved? Jozsefs (talk) 06:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)