Talk:Mensa (constellation)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: AhmadLX (talk · contribs) 13:09, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this--AhmadLX (talk) 13:09, 15 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Regarding observability statement, I made it align more closely thus Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:43, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have made some changes in Lead. Please check for grammar and unintended changes in meaning. thanks--AhmadLX (talk) 13:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * the changes are ok Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:06, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Regarding the image suggested, I am in two minds...are we worried that it is a little too similar to the infobox image and hence makes the article a bit repetitive? If not a concern, I am happy to add. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:47, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes you are right. But since license of IAU chart is CC BY 3.0, so I was thinking that may be labeling of LMC and connecting 4 brightest stars in that image should do the job. But again, this is only a subjective opinion, so it should do without as well.--AhmadLX (talk) 13:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I hadn't added NGC 1987 as one of the guidebooks dismissed all the open clusters as non-notable, but I can add Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:50, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * We have a Wikipedia article on it, so in my opinion it is notable enough to be included.--AhmadLX (talk) 13:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * added something on NGC 1987 now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:38, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Regarding the distance of Alpha Mensae, one has to go to the online data page of the paper and enter the hipparcos number. This yields the parallax which yields the distance. I've never had to make it explicit before. It is very frustrating that many astronomy papers only use obscure identifiers for stars. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:50, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, true. They have large data sets that they publish elsewhere on the internet and sometimes links provided to those pages don't even work. May be something like this should be helpful. --AhmadLX (talk) 13:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The link you have there is pretty much the same as if you click on the bibcode. And both of those have a link to online data. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Bibcode thing took 4 subsequent clicks to get here (one more required, and here too we have strange numbering with no common name of the object), while the link took one click to get here (here we have the common name): in general, SIMBAD links are better than VizieR links (for our purpose) and journal articles give latter :D AhmadLX (talk) 14:24, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Wow, I didn't scroll down the first time nor see the whole list! I have learnt something today and am thankful. That changes things alot and is a good thing to add. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:01, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Something's gone wrong here...van Leeuwen is only showing 14 objects (?!) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:18, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is a bit weird. If you go to individual star pages they report parallaxes from this study, but catalog shows only 14 :-/. I have tried to fix this by attaching a note to ref, explaining briefly how these values are obtained. You may ave a look.--AhmadLX (talk) 18:49, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The footnote is helpful I think. Any reason why 3300 and not 3260? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:44, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Because our pc/ly conversion template uses 3.3. But I've changed it to 3.26.AhmadLX (talk) 21:30, 17 May 2018 (UTC)


 * regarding "..often covered in cloud..", personally I see it as a collective noun, but also see the normal usage so changed to "clouds".
 * the "table" in the sky under the clouds is/are the stars that form the asterism of Mensa under the LMC, just like the terrestrial table mountain under cloud here.
 * I changed "..Lacaille himself had abbreviated his constellations thus on occasion." to ""..Lacaille himself had abbreviated some of his constellations.""
 * "Tafelberg" is Table Mountain's name in Afrikaans.
 * "explorer" is not an official rank so should be lower case.
 * "Mesa" is merely a flat-topped mountain - hence it refers to the flat topped bit in the middle in this sense.


 * I find astronomy articles can be challenging to get the wording right due to some complex concepts. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:07, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I aligned the inforbox to the text Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:09, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Surely the term 'South Celestial Hemisphere' in the lede should not have initial caps. Lots of other spurious capitalization in various related articles too. Needs some kind person to clean it up. Skeptic2 (talk) 10:20, 1 October 2018 (UTC)