Talk:Mentally ill people in United States jails and prisons

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Future plans for this article
Hello! My name is Magen and I am the creator of this article. It is a work in progress. I have sources lined up and plan to write future sections about suicide, management issues within prisons, and policy/advocacy very soon. If you have any suggestions for this article, please feel free to let me know! I am a student and I am always excited to learn more from the Wikipedia community. Magenstat (talk) 04:19, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I have added a relevant search query at the beginning of this talk page. Jarble (talk) 20:28, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Jarble! I appreciate it.

Quick suggestions
Fascinating topic, thanks for contributing to the coverage of it. I may review it, but here are some quick suggestions before I get to it. Sorry this is a driveby, I will give this a much more thorough look later if you wish! delldot  &nabla;.  05:43, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * use the  tag so you don't have a million different instances of "E. Torrey, et al. 2010, p. 1." in the references section. You can even use sfn for multiple pages in the same book (e.g. look at slavery in Haiti for use).
 * Try to think of ways to add images. e.g. could the solitary confinement section show a cell used for the purpose?

Pluck some links out of "See also"
Hi folks. , I see you've done a lot of work on this article. One thing which you might be able to do pretty easily is add in a few of your links from "see also" into the body text. Right now the article does a fine job building the web (linking out to recidivism, deinstitutionalization, etc.) but you have a number of very specific, very helpful links in the see also section which could be used to give a reader some context right at the moment of contact with a new term or idea. For instance, in the test (following "These are sometimes “mercy bookings” intended...") we link to Homelessness in the United States and not Homelessness and mental health. See also sections can be great for articles which don't quite fit as links in text but still might interest the reader. If you find links in see also sections which would be useful in the body text, a good strategy is to take them out and find a spot in context where they work. If you can't, it can stay in the see also section. If you can, readers now have a better understanding of the text without too much additional work. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:24, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Concerned about possible POV in the first paragraph
While reading through this page, I noticed the sentence "Mentally ill people are overrepresented in United States jail and prison populations relative to the general population." I am concerned about the word "overrepresented" and it's POV implications. Then I saw "There are three times more seriously mentally ill persons in jails and prisons than in hospitals in the United States.", which also sounds like POV when coupled with first sentence. Is this POV? &#91;Username Needed&#93; 12:26, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

P.S. Please ping me when you reply, as I probably will want to look at the answer &#91;Username Needed&#93; 12:27, 14 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't see any problems. Please explain further.  - Mark D Worthen PsyD   (talk)  17:09, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Torrey
You got enough Torrey in your references? Give me a break.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 13:35, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


 * You are welcome to find additional references to replace some of the Torrey citations.  - Mark D Worthen PsyD   (talk)  17:10, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Malingering section
I edited the Malingering section to improve accuracy (diff). None of the (previously) cited articles provided a solid estimate of malingering incidence or prevalence, mainly due to lack of methodological rigor. For example, one article (McDermott, Dualan, & Scott, 2013) seems to report a 64% incidence rate among prison inmates. The methodology (procedure) was to thoroughly evaluate inmates suspected of malingering. Thus, the result was that 64% of inmates already suspected of malingering were in fact malingering, which is much different than concluding that a representative sample of all inmates revealed a 64% malingering rate. The Malingering section would benefit from expansion, but if you undertake that task, please read cited articles thoroughly before including incidence or prevalence rates, and note limitations to any such estimates. I concentrated on reading the articles (previously) cited and the articles they cited to support purported incidence or prevalence rates. I did not conduct an exhaustive literature review. The articles I read were:

McDermott, Barbara E., Isah V. Dualan, and Charles L. Scott. "Malingering in the Correctional System: Does Incentive Affect Prevalence?" International Journal of Law and Psychiatry 36, no. 3–4 (2013): 287–292.

McDermott, Barbara E., and Gregory Sokolov. "Malingering in a correctional setting: the use of the structured interview of reported symptoms in a jail sample." Behavioral Sciences and the Law 27, no. 5 (2009): 753–765.

Norris, Margaret P., and Mary C. May. "Screening for Malingering in a Correctional Setting." Law and Human Behavior 22, no. 3 (1998), 22, 315–323.

Teplin, Linda A. "The Prevalence of Severe Mental Disorder Among Male Urban Jail Detainees: Comparison With the Epidemiologic Catchment Area Program." American Journal of Public Health 80, no. 6 (1990): 663–669.

Walters, Glenn D., Thomas W. White, and Roger L. Greene. "Use of the MMPI to Identify Malingering and Exaggeration of Psychiatric Symptomatology in Male Prison Inmates." Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 56, no. 1 (1988): 111–117.

- Mark D Worthen PsyD  (talk)  (I am a man. The traditional male pronouns are fine.) 00:43, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

The Larger Clinical Population
I think we're omitting a large portion of the clinical population that is incarcerated. Schizophrenia spectrum and mood disorders only make up a small slice of the clinical pie. Many cluster B personality disorders are highly prevalent within the prison populations, and sometimes even comorbid with other disorders. It's also worth mentioning that some of these disorders are often egosyntonic, those with antisocial personality disorders are often unlikely to believe they may need help. There also seems to be some evidence for developmental disabilities. Not to mention PTSD. Dabrams13 (talk) 15:05, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Be bold and integrate that important information into the article. You have a good point!  - Mark D Worthen PsyD   (talk)   (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.)  13:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Point of View
While reading through this article, I feel like sections of this article (especially The Shift from Mental Health Institutions to Incarceration and Mental health care in prisons and jails) lacked encyclopedic tone and neutral point of view. CuriousCat618 (talk) 13:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Third Section
The third section of this article (The Shift from Mental Health Institutions to Incarceration) contains an insufficient number of citations (only one citation in 16 lines of text) and furthermore seems to be inconsistent with Wikipedia's intended encyclopedic tone. Can it be improved to meet these qualifications or should it be deleted? 73.172.81.116 (talk) 05:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It can be improved. Be bold and add some citations (and improve the prose) yourself! :0) Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/his/him] 14:10, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

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Copy-edit tag
Hi Miniapolis I noticed that you placed a copy edit tag on this article, but after a quick glance through, I can't really see anything that I would call an issue. Could you elaborate, please? Dinkenfunkle 05:57, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

neutrality
i think this article should be rewritten to be a bit more neutral especially in the lead section Ivannilych (talk) 15:07, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

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