Talk:Mer de Noms/Archive 1

Orestes is about Keenan's mother?
That is what the Overview states, and I'm not sure why. The word "Orestes" is nowhere in his mother's name, so I'm not sure where the contributor of that is getting his information. Further, Orestes was one of the songs that Billy recorded completely before Maynard joined the band, meaning Maynard didn't write the lyrics. You can look at the Judith single and hear the demo version of Orestes: Billy sings it, with identical lyrics. --Aganar 22:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

This album is connected!!

 * All song titles serve as redirects to this album, have their own pages, or have been placed at the appropriate disambiguation pages.--Hraefen Talk 16:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Release date?
Can you justify the change in release dates? I ask only because there is a user of this site who makes a habit of posting false release dates for music. Thank you. Pakaran 03:42, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)


 * The original article had an incorrect release date, which was actually the release date of the newest "a perfect circle" albums. this album was released in 2000, which i double checked at amazon.com. Bonfire2k4 04:08, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Mer de Noms
I'm not sure how many of you know about this, but if you combine the first two words of the name, the meaning becomes "shit names". Mer de Noms-->Merde Noms--67.177.36.200 09:40, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I can't say with 100% certainty that either Maynard or Billy knew that at the time, but I certainly wouldn't put that sort of intentional wordplay past MJK.  --Jemiller226 08:55, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually the order of words in French is rather different than that of English. "Merde noms" doesn't mean anything. "Shit names" would be "Noms de merde" (=names of shit). However, "Mer de noms" sounds a lot like "Merde, non !" (Oh no ! Shit !). Now, there you have your most pointless post on Wikipedia ever. :)
 * Sea of names is also in a line from a poem by the Islamic mystic Ibn ul-'Arabi. The line was one of the influences for Berger and Luckmann's The Social Construction of Reality. TheTyrant 01:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)TheTyrant
 * I think it is worth noting that "Mer de Noms" is improper grammar. That is, I think so. Because "Noms" is plural, "de" should be "des," thus, "Mer des Noms." The funny thing is that they got the grammar right in the code on the cover ("LA CASCADE DES PRENOMS"). Maybe we could add a trivia section? Perhaps we could simply add this under the overview. I'm a noob, though, so I'll leave this call to you guys. I'll ask WordReference. J1.grammar natz (talk) 01:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Heck, no, I'm french, and I can tell you that "Mer de noms" isn't a mistake ! It's just not common language, it's rather literary language, that's all ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.167.240.147 (talk) 19:55, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Gord
Maynard on vocals and gord? WTF is a gord?

You are, of course, reffering to the last track on the album "Over", which is credited to Maynard for Vocals & Gord. I have no idea. I already tried looking it up on Wikipedia, so don't bother. Underwater 19:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Gourd? --jh51681 07:41, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, that makes a lot of sense. Does that mean it's a typo in the album, or are both spellings apropriate? Underwater 21:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say that 'Gord' might be the American spelling of 'Gourd'. They have the same method for words such as 'Armor' (Armour), 'Honor' (Honour), and 'color' (Colour). Basically, a lot of words which have an 'ou' together gets shortened to an 'o'.  mÆniac  Ask! 22:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Symbols
Is there anywhere or any way to make the symbols into a font? Also the symbols on the translation chart have a signature at the bottom which when translated says "monovitae" which i think means "one life" any idea why that is? Sinthetic 21:59, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I believe there is a font made of the chart, or several, around the internet. My question is, when read from upside down, translated, the symbols on "Mer De Noms" become "La Cascade Des Prenoms", which, I think may mean something like "The Cascade of First Names" or something.  According to the online dictionaries, "vitae" is "of life" or "lives".  Would that mean "One of Life" or "One Lives"? If the latter, I think it might connect to the album, considering it was written about people Maynard James Keenan has come to know. (Kount 06:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC))

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MONOVITAE
The word at the bottom of the Mer De Noms rune image is MONOVITAE. Monovitae was the user who uploaded the picture, meaning the image is edited. Don't think he's even on Wikipedia anymore... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tool-apc (talk • contribs) 19:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

'Orestes' Cover
Did anybody else hear the cover of 'orestes' by Evanescence? It should be worth mentioning as they're a pretty famous band.

-Peace Out!-

 mÆniac  Ask! 22:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
The (unsourced) trivia section of this article got it wrong. "Mer de Noms" is correct French and translates as "Sea of Names". "Mer des Noms" would also be correct French translating as "Sea of the Names". Regards. 81.83.135.212 (talk) 14:29, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

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