Talk:Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W221)

Blatant MBZ Propaganda!
I know marque enthusiasts are most likely to invest the time and effort in creating this kind of article, but some attention should be paid to NPOV. Much of this article reads like a Mercedes brochure.

pics
If anyone feels like adding some good pics plz do! we have 1 so far lol


 * Check out the external links especially FamilyCar.com - they've got the best automotive gallery. Htra0497 20:31, 15 November 2006 (AEST)

RE: Blatant MBZ Propaganda!
I know what you mean there are some bits which need changing, however the car is a ground-breaking one.

The car has technology which, as history has shown, will only become common place in 10 years time. It is the future of automotive technology today; and this is not just some PR bluff I’ve copied and pasted here, its the truth, agreed upon universally be automotive critics.

So yeah some bits need there wording changed a bit, but the article also has to show what this car is, i.e. A technological showcase of the highest order (which has already having a major effect on BMW, Audi and Lexus development).

Unfortunately for some, I am an enthusiast and although I try to be as NPOV as possible, im not perfect! --JCW 21:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Please be reminded that Wikipedia is not a place to advocate any technology, no matter how ground-breaking or revolutionary it may seem. We should not present any commercial product with favoritism.  If a car is as good as you think it is, the NPOV facts will speak for themselves. Shawnc 08:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

cleanup
OK, just to say I will happily clean this article up employing NPOV, but it will need a fair bit of work so I won't be able to start until end of the month (too busy till then).

Thanks --JCW 21:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

"Dr." Clarkson
I think it's fair to say that calling Jeremy Clarkson "Dr. Clarkson" is inappropriate and misleading, I've changed it back to being just Jeremy Clarkson. Lostchicken 08:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

according to the last Auto Motor, in the year 2009 merceds-benz lunch S Class cabrio.

Completely rewritten, is it okay now?
I've taken the liberty of completely rewriting the article to try and fix the NPOV problem while trying to retain as much information as possible. If you think my edits are okay, please comment so I can remove the cleanup tag. If not, please tell me where to work on the article some more. Nick L. 17:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

According to Mercedes Benz, the plant in Santiago Tianguistenco only produces commercial vehicles (trucks). They stopped making cars in 1996 .Philippz (talk) 02:48, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Cup Holders? ?
So they are talking about all the technicial features of this car, then they put "Cup Holders" LOL Ok first of all for some reason I was laughing for like 10 minutes, I dunno why I found that so funny! Second of all, Most modern cars have cup holders. Is it necessary to list this "feature"

Short vs. long wheelbase
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the S-Class in the US/Nth American market only available in the long wheelsbase version? - Htra0497 15:07, 1st June 2007 (AET)

S300 Asia only model
For those who do not believe me(esp. American) Here is some evidence that S300 does exist and is being sold in Asia.

S300L: Excites and more

By Samuel Ee - October 28, 2006 The Business Times(Singapore)

COMFORT and elegance may be the traditional hallmarks of the flagship Mercedes-Benz saloon, but in Singapore nothing says you have arrived as much as an S-Class. So it is no exaggeration to say that the introduction of the 'entry-level' S300 version would probably send more than a frisson of excitement down the spines of some wealthy Singaporeans.

The new S-Class was first launched earlier this year with relatively larger S350, S500 and S600 models. But for cost, tax and other reasons, it is the three-litre version - or occasionally 2.8 litres in the past - that is usually the volume seller.

This new car will only be available here as an S300L, with the suffix denoting its long-wheelbase status - the car has an extra 120 mm for more spacious rear seat accommodation.

But other than the new three-litre V6 engine - first seen in the E280 - the S300L has exactly the same trim level as the S350L except for three features: the 300 does not have electric rear-side window blinds, remote boot closing and a reverse camera.

To reflect that and the smaller engine, it costs $289,888, or $39,000 less than the S350L. Otherwise, buyers still get the same high specifications like the smooth 7G-Tronic seven-speed automatic transmission, Comand controller with eight-inch colour display, Pre-Safe anticipatory occupant protection system, and that superb Airmatic air suspension, among others.

As a result, sitting in the driver's seat of an S300L feels very much like in an S350L, except that the performance is only adequate. The S300L is by no means sluggish, but the 231-hp engine is pulling a body which is longer, wider and taller than its predecessor. Even in standard form, the wheelbase of the new car is already 70 mm longer than the old one.

But the excellent transmission mitigates the performance deficit (the S300L has 41 hp less than the S350L) with its seven speeds shifting seamlessly and efficiently, while the new-generation S-Class's sportier steering and suspension set-up also aid in giving that impression of nimbleness. And those in the back will continue to enjoy the traditional experience of comfort, luxury and silence that an S-Class cabin always promises and delivers. Ultimately for some buyers, however, the three-pointed star on the bonnet is as important as all those qualities listed above.

And rightly so. Over the decades, the S-Class has come to represent the definitive luxury limousine and this new generation will continue to exude status and gravitas - even with the smallest engine in the range.

Ceecookie (talk) 08:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Assembly
What is the definition of assembly? The S500L was and probably is still assembled in Egypt from CKD sets made in Sindelfingen. I couldn't find a reference for the actual production (although I read it in the end of 2006 or beginning of 2007) just the announcement: http://www.dailystaregypt.com/printerfriendly.aspx?ArticleID=926 and in german http://www.bfai.de/fdb-SE,MKT20070119094656,Google.html 212.23.103.4 (talk) 00:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC) – According to Mercedes Benz, the plant in Santiago Tianguistenco only produces commercial vehicles (trucks). They stopped making cars in 1996. Philippz (talk) 02:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Police Cars?
Can someone explain how/why these vehicles are used as police cars? That seems like a lot of money for a police car. Are the police vehicles really stripped down on the inside? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.98.109 (talk) 20:36, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Mexico does not produce W221 police cars. According to Mercedes Benz, the plant in Santiago Tianguistenco only produces commercial vehicles (trucks). They stopped making cars in 1996. See here: http://www.daimler.com.mx/PerfilCorporativo.aspx and here: http://www.daimler.com/dccom/0-5-1380400-49-1346171-1-0-0-0-0-0-9506-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0.html Philippz (talk) 02:44, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

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