Talk:Meta-IV (specification language)

This page is intended to provide basic information for the article on the Vienna Development Method. Although very technical, it is of historical interest why Bjoerner chose to use Meta-IV for the method at the time (1978).

I am editing this in response to the request for cleanup etc of the VDM page and I happen to be expert in this field. --Михал Орела 10:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

proposed deletion
The current article on the VDM in Wikipedia makes reference to Meta-IV.

It turns out that the article is about VDM-SL which is, of course, standardized.

What is missing is the entire history behind the VDM itself.

A page on Meta-IV happens to be a useful place where that history can be provided.

Without the history, the article on VDM is indeed "formally biased" towards what "is" used today.

I propose to continue adding my personal knowledge of the history (because I was part of it) in a formal scholarly (and hopefully independent) manner.

--Михал Орела 11:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Meta-IV as "neologism"
It happens that authors do invent things. To the best of my knowledge Meta-IV was "invented" around 1978 or thereabouts. Among those in the field of Formal Methods and the Specification of Computing Systems it is noteworthy.

The VDM Meta-IV was certainly the first successful formal method in Europe, arising out of the IBM Lab in Vienna. From there it was a short step to the foundation of an Expert Group in the European Union and the establishment of VDM-Europe.

All these details ought still to go into the history of the field and under the rubric Meta-IV

--Михал Орела 11:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Meta-IV as "original research"
This is easy to refute. It is pure history now.

The only thing original will be the provision of a body of indendent courses to bolster the claims made for it.

--Михал Орела 11:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

proposed change of page name
Looking at material which I consider appropriate to underpin the history of the main VDM Schools it now looks better if the main Article name be changed from Meta-IV to VDM Meta-IV ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MihalOrel (talk • contribs) 11:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Relationship between VDM Europe and Formal Methods Europe
As I continue to flesh out the "offending" Meta-IV article, I have also come across the Wikipedia article on Formal Methods Europe which also requires expanding...

--Михал Орела 12:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

removal of threat of deletion
I have now removed the "notice to delete" banner from the page on the basis of the modifications already made today, the first of which was to "move" the page to a better address.

But I am still aware that much much more needs to be done. The main VDM page needs tidying up, lots of editing, to be wikified, ...

Since much of the material on that page is really about the ISO standard VDM-SL, it seems prudent to work on the development of the history of the VDM Meta-IV here.

I am open to suggestions, help, advice, ...

--Михал Орела 19:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Moved page
I moved this page to Meta-IV (specification language) as this is the proper naming convention, and fits with other specification languages, such as Alloy (specification language). -- Zim Zala Bim talk  01:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow! Thanx a lot ZimZalaBimBim! I really appreciate that. Take care. --Михал Орела 10:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Notes, References, Reading Links, e-Links
I have been spending a lot of time getting to know Wikipedia since May 2008. Now I feel I am in better position to help clean up this article. First step will be to add more references and citations... (MihalOrela (talk) 12:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC))

Cliff Jones
Noticed that the Cliff Jones link went to a disambiguation page. Have changed Cliff_Jones to Cliff_Jones_(computer_scientist) in order to get the direct link. (Михал Орела 14:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC))

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