Talk:Metagross

Size
One Beldum is about the size of a bottle of water, whereas a Metagross is about equal to a small building. Metagross' height is 5"3...that's a REALLY small building. --> So sayeth  M  e  t  h  n  o  r Sayeth back|Other sayethings
 * That was changed to "car", but I've removed it completely. I see no point in it. Cipher (Yell) 12:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Introduction
i'm starting to get really annoyed at the begining thing to all pokemon articles...
 * It was decided that it needed to be there in some Featured Article nomination, IIRC. -Amarkov babble 22:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, correct - and also for consistency. Cipher (Yell) 12:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Major Corrections
Hi I’m new… I think this article uses way too many commas; they definitely need to get removed or “changed” – but, it seems as though when I try to change 'em under my own discretion, Wikipedia has this way of saving the *entire* article into my IE profile/cache folder (where my Cookies and Temp. Files are), and then I have to delete it every time! I’ll have a look at Wikipedia’s tutorial and guidelines when I have the chance. But if there are rules associating with the editing of any article under my username or in any other circumstances, please tell me or direct me to a helpful link so that I can master this piece of encyclopedia.

Bolds indicate what needs to be changed:

Absolutely NO ‘s’ is supposed to be after an apostrophe, if the name of a person/thing ends with an ‘s’ already.
 * Metagross's name is a combination of metal and gross, as in corpulent and dense, because of its large size…

Why is "multi-billion-dollar" hyphenated twice? Should be "multi-billion dollar".
 * Metagross (メタグロス, Metagurosu?) are one of the 493 fictional species of Pokémon creatures from the multi-billion-dollar...

Not only there is an extra space after the em-dash, but why not simply use a semi-colon instead? You can still leave it as an em-dash anyhow. Either a no space em-dash or semicolon will do. Ellipsis seems to be unnecessary also.
 * ...untamed creatures that characters encounter while embarking on various adventures— and tamed Pokémon creatures owned by Pokémon trainers.

Use ellipsis instead of a colon – makes the article look a lot neater. Also substitute ‘four’ with a number (4).
 * Metagross' intelligence is extraordinarily high: not only does it have four brains (one from each Beldum)…

Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire are the same kind of games as well as Diamond and Pearl. Please use a regular ‘/’ symbol instead if this is even necessary? And yes, a comma is not neaded after the last item of the list—use a colon instead.
 * In Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond and Pearl,…

Use an en-dash instead of a comma.
 * In Pokémon Colosseum, it can be snagged as a Shadow Pokémon from Nascour, the head of Team Cipher at the Realgam Tower Colosseum…

Sorry, but a comma is certainly not needed there! As for that extra comma *again*, replace that with an em-dash instead (since more than one thing is being talked about at the same time).
 * Metagross learns many powerful attacks, including Meteor Mash, Psychic and Earthquake, the latter of which can cover its weakness against Fire-type Pokémon…

Note: If you really think that everything what I just said seems exceptionally pointless, irrelevant, or makes no sense whatsoever – then you may ignore me for a reason(s) that I would like to know. Seems as though we aren’t allowed to “edit” articles even though Wikipedia is in fact an encyclopedia that "anyone can edit"? When I logout and delete the cache, nothin’ gets changed—but when I attempt to login, the article just suddenly goes back to what I had corrected before which would be kind of stupid since people in this world would indeed all have different browsers with totally different caches. Anyway, if this article is copyrighted by the article creator or follows/uses a set of english writing formatting rules from related Pokemon articles, please just let me know so that I don't waste time correcting typos all day.

MWarfare 101... 18:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * A few things: Metagross's isn't incorrect, it can be used; multi-billion-dollar is correct, in the same way that million-dollar is; and you know, I could go on and on. I've just been through your edits to this article, and many are pointless and actually worse than the original. I will be reverting them because they're just...bad. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Or attempt to. Cipher (Yell) 22:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Metagross’s
Thanks for telling me Cipher, really appreciated it! I am finally use to this whole “Wikipidish” thing now. I just wanted to know what other “Wikipedians” would actually think of when I edit their articles since I am a newcomer. It indeed looks like if people have a very strict set of formatting rules, the article creator tends to stick with that permanently and would obviously think that what I am changing is “bad” (I already knew that that comment would be coming). At this rate, makes me wonder if I would ever be able to edit any more of your Pokemon-related articles or anybody else’s if this keeps up. *Heh-Heh*

Also, bypassing the cache (according the Wikipedia) doesn’t work effectively. Usually I will have to keep on refreshing the article or deleting the cache manually to see any "hidden" changes. The history link above the article is normally where I would be able to check if anything is changed or maybe ignored.

Just to let you know, I am just only asking questions and giving out advices to see what other Wikipedists like you would say or simply what will happen if I change/edit stuff — since I am indeed only experimenting what people would think, and how Wikipedia works and behaves itself. This is how I am and will act.

But anyway… please no more fights or arguments. It ends here! I’m pretty sure that there was a bullet point which stated: "Don’t bite the newcomers!" LOL

Couple questions:


 * 1) What the hell is “Metagross’s? Is this showing any ownership the proper way? Because if it is or isn’t — I hope you follow that specific "...s's" usage concept to the rest of the other Pokemon articles or when writing in formal English. Plus, I see that in this article, there are some which are left as only “Metagross’ ” without the extra ‘s’ by the way. Should this be changed? Why/why not is there an extra ‘s’ in some of the paragraphs then?
 * 2) And please explain why you think that "Metagross' " is supposed to be incorrect, and why is "Metagross's" correct? I would really want to know the reason – why?
 * 3) What makes "Metagross's" more preferable than "Metagross' "?
 * 4) Up till now you still haven't explain to me why "multi-billion dollar" is incorrect, and why "multi-billion-dollar" is corrent.
 * 5) Are you simply not changing anything to the Metagross introduction just because there are thousands of other Pokemon-related articles that have the same style of formatting? I hope this is not because of laziness! (Just kidding)

Any other further debates or discussions can take place below here… MWarfare 101 15:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Here are your answers -


 * 1) Metagross's is in fact incorrect, sorry. I've seen it used elsewhere so thought it was correct.
 * 2) See above.
 * 3) And above.
 * 4) Don't take that up with me, take it up on the Talk page at Template:Pokestart. I can't give you the reason why million-dollar is correct, I'm sure million dollar would be correct too.
 * 5) The introduction to any Pokémon page is not to be changed because it is the start template used (link above). It is to ensure that all Pokémon pages are consistent and have proper information as a start to the article.

And in future to reply to something don't make a new talk section - reply using colons. Cipher (Yell) 17:05, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

move or attack
"This is a good attack for Metagross to have " in context to agility.. is agility an attack or a support move? can we use the word move? or all moves are attacks by default? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryubahamut (talk • contribs) 22:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Well, they are all classified as attacks in guides and such, but there's no right or wrong. It could be called an attack or a move and it wouldn't be incorrect. If you think it should be a move, go right ahead and change it. Cipher (Yell) 15:57, 21 January 2007 (UTC)