Talk:Meteor hammer

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I honestly never heard of the phrase "meteor hammer" until now, and I know my basic medieval weapons. After checking out some of the links here, I now know the difference between a meteor hammer and a flail. The article is not really helpful in regard to making the distinction clear, plus it uses ambigious phrasing like "in ancient times" and the like. I'll do a little editing to make it clear this is a chinese weapon, and how it's different from a flail, but I wouldn't mind it if somebody with more knowledge of this particular weapon rebuffed the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.172.254.16 (talk) 17:38, 4 May 2006


 * One step ahead of you. I'm compiling some information on the Meteor Hammer, and it's use both in ancient times, and in modern times as a dance prop (popularly known of in juggling and poi subcultures). See also the Fire meteor, whose page is also in need of updating (and conceivably merging into this one eventually). Watch this space.


 * And for the record, a Meteor is distinct from a flail as it has no handle, posessing a hammer head at either end.
 * --Xanthine 14:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

The "list of meteor techniques" sounds like it came from a video game user manual. It seems like obvious knowledge and possibly was made for purely creative writing. Request removal unless relevance can be proved.


 * A valid point. The list of combat techniques was sourced from a martial artist adept in the use of the meteor hammer. Inclusion of this section was an attempt to clarify how the weapon can be used (striking and grappling, as opposed to throwing and entangling like bolas), and emphasise it's versatility.
 * I must object to the notion of it being "creative writing", and personally I find that insinuation mildly offensive. However, I'm willing to discuss the matter further, if anyone has a more valid reason for it's removal.
 * --Xanthine
 * (At least sign your name in future).

Xanthine - Please cite your source(s). Thanks Chrlsuk (talk) 04:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Meteor hammer as a kung fuweapon
Well as far as i know the meteor hammer when in relation to the kung fu weapon only had one weight on the end of a rope (alternatively replaced by a chain) while the other hand was wrapped around the wrist and was used in an almost exact same way to its smaller brother the rope dart.

Suicideducky 05:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

EDIT: my comment above was not intended as evidence for removal rather than a submission of furthur martial background. Suicideducky 05:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

having practised it myself, and having done research into its history i can confidently state it has a large weight on either end. one reason for this is so you can strike with one end, then catch an opponent off guard with an attack from the opposite end. also referring to it as a 'bigger brother' of the rope dart is incorrect, the techniques used are rather different, the meteor is a heavy blunt object used to bludgeon, while the rope dart has either a pointed or bladed end used to piece or cut. it is true they have similar techniques, but they are still separate. Deity pjb21 (talk) 21:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

This article...
Is it just me, or was most of this article written by a 4channer or something? MisterHalt (talk) 05:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

New photo needed for the fire meteor
The meteor pictured in the middle is not safe and is not an acceptable example of fire prop. Tape being used for anything other then grip, giant, non-locking carabeiners, what appear to be keychains. Having poor (unsafe) images of props is bad example of performers and may suggest to amateurs it is safe to hack together a dangerous weapon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.176.185 (talk) 19:29, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Anachronisms
Why and where does this article contain anachronisms? How and why should they be fixed? Hyacinth (talk) 07:11, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Additional citations
Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 07:13, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

well for one thing it has 0 references if it was actually used in ancient china — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.103.97.25 (talk) 13:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Is this supposed to be a real weapon?
Could some one provide a reference proving that this is an actually used practical weapon and not just a martial arts fantasy? I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that this thing is actually useful in combat. It's just way to uncontrollable. Where and when was this actually used and by whom? CuriousOliver (talk) 20:36, 25 April 2017 (UTC)


 * It's similar to bolas if you need help imagining how to use it . There's not many results on google scholar about anything called a "meteor hammer" - unless someone wants to read this article that's behind a paywall I can't help you guys with whether it's an ancient Chinese weapon or fake, sorry. Schwiftyschwa (talk) 12:16, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

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