Talk:Meteora (album)/Archive 1

Somewhere I Belong
"Somewhere I Belong" is the lead single from the album. It is about a man who is terribly hurt inside and wants to heal and feel the real world. He wants to feel what is really real, let go of his pain and find something he wanted all along. The music video features Chester singing with the band in some kind of odd hall with flames surrounding it, while the band's rapper Mike Shinoda sings between a group of people wearing "death" cloaks. The band's main lyrics composers Mike Shinoda and Chester Bennington rewrote over 30 choruses for the song alone. This song is peformed at most live performances."

I shortened the above to just

"Somewhere I Belong" is the lead single from the album. The band's main lyrics composers Mike Shinoda and Chester Bennington rewrote over 30 choruses for the song.

because most of it was just putting the song's lyrics into sentence form and a unneccesary and wobbly description of the music video (hard video to really describe I admit, but still, a description isn't neccesary here). MardukZero 20:21, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * I think that if it's really necessary to describe the videos that much(meaning the original version, your changes were good), then a song info page should be started with information about the song and description of the video. That's assuming there's enough information to warrent a new page.    Tigger89 23:21, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Inconsistent?
Why does the article state that this album received poor critical response from critics but then go on to list several entertainment companies, most of whom gave the album either excellent, good, or average reviews? Btboy500

- i think this has been fixed by the more ambiguous wording now. --Sprafa 11:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Sonc Synching ?
A ridiculous addition that almost smells of fanboyism. Tons of albums deliver song synching ? The Avalanches did it 10x better than Linkin Park... I'm just saying i don't believe this deserves an encyclopedic entry to say that their album had "song synching". It's a little preposterous to think every other album with song synching would require an explanation like that. I find it unencyclopedic, basically useless knowledge that is only here to "praise" an album that no one else liked. --Sprafa 11:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It's something to note about the album. If the article stated that the song synching was something amazing and unique that the band did, then it would be going overboard. However, I don't think that it needs to be changed, though making it an entirely different category is a bit much. By the way, I liked the album. --SayCheese 16:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Article dimension
OK, so this article is much longer than the one about Hybrid Theory? Ridiculous! -- Egr (talk), 8/20/2006


 * Then expand the HT article if you're miffed by it. Hello2112 16:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I've just done it, although my grasp of English is not too good. And don't provoke me, please, or I'll react very badly. -- Egr (talk), 10/14/2006

Vandalism
The following quote looks like topic vandalism to me, and if no one objects, I'm removing it. Also, hte referance to "wounds that won't heal" seems kind of pointless to me, and I think this topic needs to be cleaned up. Anyway, here is the part that is likely to be the work of a vandal:

"It should be noted that these wounds are not, in fact, indicative of emotional problems, but are a sign of a serious illness, such as Leprosy or Lupus."

Mathew Williams 09:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I hate the word vandal, btw. Just saying. I think the word you were looking for was troll. :P Anyways, yeah...whoever did that was pretty lame. 75.89.251.238 (talk) 01:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Linkin park-meteora.jpg
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Silly Mistake?
Hit The Floor does not re-direct to the correct song.
 * It is not a silly mistake. The Linkin Park song "Hit the Floor" is not notable and should not have its own article.  It may have a link on the Meteora page, but that should be removed.  Not every album song deserves its own article.  Closetoeuphoria 16:44, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Template and Category
I've noticed the Linkin Park Template has been removed from this article, and it's been removed from their. Can someone please fix this? Titan50 01:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

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RAPCORE, Rap-Rock or Rap-Metal
here is the source : http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wzfixqlald6e —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.211.74.145 (talk) 17:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Alternative Rock
Breaking the Habit and Numb are clearly Alternative Rock. But I would like to make an argument that Somewhere I Belong has a more rock vibe than a metal vibe. Also, Easier to Run sounds like alternative rock, not metal. So I think Alternative Rock should be listed as a subgenre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JCStreetSoldier1234 (talk • contribs) 06:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You can't classify a band based on what you personally think they sound like. That's original research, and that is not acceptable on Wikipedia. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well what else is there? Critics base their reviews on original research. This is not a democracy, unless you ask and have recordings of Mike, Chester, Brad, Joe, Pheonix, and Rob saying what Genre each of their songs are.... Then all we have are educated guesses, not sources. Sometimes there are no sources for certain things, you just have to play it out by ear. And to say that so and so from this magazene listed this or that album as alt. rock, or alt. metal... isn't that their opinion? And if that's their opinion, is that reliable? Well my friend, we give them the power to make that decision as to lable a genre or whatever. Now, it's not stretch to consider some of their songs Alt. Rock..... OH WAIT!!! You're Wesleydodds... you're going to disagree no matter what. I actually thought you were somebody who knew something about Linkin Park. JCStreetSoldier1234 (talk) 14:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You base your arguments on sources, not your own opinions. Otherwise unverified material can just be removed. WesleyDodds (talk) 01:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Some things don't need sources when everybody agrees. Geez, maybe I'll get my sources from The Onion... Then Linkin Park's genre will be bluegrass... —Preceding unsigned comment added by JCStreetSoldier1234 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Linkin Park were nu metal, as they confirmed in Kerrang! magazine issue 1158 page 22. Bane II (talk) 21:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually there is a fair bit that refers to LP being Alternative Rock, everyones precious allmusic for example, I don't know how to link but spend 5 minutes looking around and you'll find plenty refering to this as Alt Rock —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.188.212 (talk) 11:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Imports
My copy of Meteora has a whopping 24 tracks, is this worth adding to the main page? I got it when abroad in Russia. the tracks are as follows (omitting the first 13, they are identical to the main release): 14.OME STEP CLOSER {(HUMBLE BROTHERS MIX REMIX)} 15.HIGH VOLTAGE 16.PAPERCUT (JAPAN CUT) 17.RUNAWAY (11-09 VERSION) 18.FORGOTTEN (CUT EDIT) 19.MY DECEMBER 20.CAROUSEL 21.ONE STEP CLOSER {(LIVE AT THE MTV)} 22.STEP UP {(LIVE PROJECT REVOLUTION)} 23.MY DECEMBER {(LIVE PROJECT REVOLUTION)} 24.WITH YOU {(LIVE OZZFEST 2001)}

All track text is in caps, track 14 actually is listed "OME", not "ONE" for some reason, and "{" and "}" denotes text in smaller type. Also, instead of a booklet there is only a sheet with the album cover on one side(denoting only original 13 tracks), and track count on reverse. The back cover lists all 24 songs, but the Linkin Park logo covers several titles. The label is SoundR, copyright 2003 Sound-R Production.Hida Atarasi (talk) 05:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It's a bootleg, dog. 75.89.251.238 (talk) 01:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Meteora segues
The long proseline that is found in the second section of the Meteora article should be removed. Using gapless cd manufacturing and creating segues between tracks is: A) Not complicated B) Very common/widely implemented, and therefore is C) Not notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.251.238 (talk) 01:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

If you revert the changes I make, you need an argument for doing so. If your argument is notability, then I commission you, therefore, to visit every Music Recording of an Album which has a page here on Wikipedia, and add a short sentence that states that the CD implements track segues, gapless playback, and then list each segue on the album individually. I would tell you that this is unnecessary/pointless and is unrealistic to ask for. 75.89.251.238 (talk) 01:53, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Alt Rock, again
heres a source for Alternative Rock --> http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/linkinpark/meteora

can it now be left as a genre? 141.132.103.61 (talk) 00:47, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Meteora (album)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Meteora (album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Tyskland": From Linkin Park discography:  From In the End:  

Reference named "UK": From Linkin Park discography:  From In the End:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)