Talk:Metreon

Metreon sucks, do not waste your time or money. I went there for one of my birthdays and everything was dissapointing. The ads made it seem cool, but when you get there everything is merely half as good as you expect (or less). Even the tasty sounding asian soup I had been looking forward to was poor. It was a waste of a birthday and I spent 2 hours just to get there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.168.13.47 (talk • contribs)
 * I just walked through it, seems like a good place if youre into warhammer and playstation stuff. I wouldn't think parties would be fun. Just a nice place to look through if your in downtown San Fransisco and your a techie or gamer.--Exander 22:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Discovery Store
The discovery store is now a Christmas holiday gift store. I don't know what it will become after Christmas. ;) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.101.33.116 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 25 December 2006 (UTC-7)
 * Vacant, probably. Theater traffic is down since the new multiplex above Bloomingdales opened across the street.  --John Nagle 05:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Do they still have the Metropolis robot in the mall? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.192.249.22 (talk • contribs) 14:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC-7)


 * Yes. It's an ad for the comic store, Things From Another World. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 08:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Gunfight at the Metreon?
Or was there? Word on the street is very confused right now and I can't find any news stories about it. - Richfife 20:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * No big deal: - Richfife 16:43, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Exhibits
Should something be added about the exhibits that were here, like the Titanic exhibit and the new Da Vinci exhibit?

while i'm at it, I think this should be cleaned up and have sections like shops, previous attractions (now that all the attractions are gone, excluding theaters), and exhibits? Nymo 22:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Probably not a high priority. The Metreon is headed for the List of dead malls.  With all the tenants that have left, the place is now mostly vacant except for the movie theaters.  The theaters are hurting since the new Century multiplex opened a block away. The latest thing is to use some of the vacant retail for corporate exhibits in conjunction with trade shows in the nearby convention center.  --John Nagle 15:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 05:15, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Killings at the Metreon
Just added a section on killings at the Metreon, with press citations. There have been three so far, two in 2007. --John Nagle (talk) 16:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed these killings because these non notable incidents don't warrant inclusion in this encyclopedia. But I got reverted. So please discuss. Chris! c t 01:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, Wikipedia notability is for the article, not material within the article. Within the article, the main issue is verifiability.  These are cited, verifiable incidents reported in the mainstream press, which satisfies WP:V.  The number of incidents is high enough to be significant. --John Nagle (talk) 04:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I am not saying anything about the notability of the article, but the notability of those events. Even though they are cited, I just don't see the significance to include killings. But I guess that is just me. So if editors think that they should be included, then go ahead and keep it. I am not going to remove it. Chris!  c t 20:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why Jillians is mentioned as now closed. It is still very much open. --204.14.153.123 (talk) 05:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right. It was that restaurant/bar on the second floor that closed. --John Nagle (talk) 18:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not an editor here (or even a major contributor) but I just had to comment on the "Killings at the Metreon" section. This doesn't seem to fit at all. Do other shopping center entries have a "Killings at the shopping center" section? I have not seen this before. I live in San Francisco and Metreon is not known to be a dangerous place. In any major city there are crimes that result in death in lots of different places (what a sad fact), but this seems like a trivial entry. Or perhaps the opposite is true -- we should start listing all the murders that occur in each place on wikipedia - the public buldings, schools, monuments, etc. Please discuss this and I'll check back.

Sony Style Store
There is little to no info on Sony's proprietary store w/in the Metreon. I remember when the Metreon first opened, they had a 60" HDTV that was $20k and also had Mini disc players for sale too. They had a music store within the Sony Style store too. I'm not sure what has changed since I dont live in the Bay anymore. DevonTheDude (talk) 22:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's still there, but not doing well. They seem to have a stock of old flat-screen displays that are nice but about 3x current prices.  They're stuck as the last upscale store in what is now a low end mall. --John Nagle (talk) 05:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Sony Playstation Store
There is no info on the PS store, that is where the guy got held up at gun point for a PS3 at launch November 2006. The PS store is THE official place for the launches of the PS2, PSP, and PS3 respectively since SCEA is located in the south bay area (Foster City). When the store first opened it was geared toward the PSone (aka the PSX (not the dvr) in its time) and transitioned to the PS2 when it launched. The PS store is the place for Playstation merchandise, games and accessories. DevonTheDude (talk) 22:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Tavern on the Green and other Metreon changes
Here's some things that I think should be added:

-Mention of the new Tavern on the Green addition to the complex, which will take up the whole top level (formerly "where the wild things are" and "titanic" exhibit) and will be "San Francisco's biggest restaurant"

-But the changes don't stop there. Apparently, Westfield wants to completely re-tenant and remodel the whole building. As a Metreon fan (back in it's good days), I'm a bit saddened to this. As long as Westfield stays true to their word and keep the same original idea/feel of Metreon (something like that, poorly paraphrased), I won't mind, but if they make it into another mall like the Centre next door (also owned by westfield), that would suck in my book. But evidence of these changes is clear, with Things From Another World now gone and construction walls up near the management offices. This feels like Disney's billion-dollar makeover of Disney's California Adventure, but instead of fixing up a troubled park to ring in guests, it's an entertainment center/building/mall.

Just a couple opinions, but really, someone should better mention these in the article...

Nymo (talk) 08:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It's too soon. The "Tavern on the Green" branch isn't even scheduled to open until 2009. --John Nagle (talk) 04:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Further decline
It's not looking good. The Starbucks went out of business. One of the original outlets in the food court closed. Much vacant space. Not clear if the Tavern on the Green thing is going to happen. --John Nagle (talk) 04:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Tavern on the Green just went bankrupt.. --John Nagle (talk) 21:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Shootings, again
The Metreon does have an impressive shooting rate. Try searching Google News for "Metreon" and "shooting". . We have solid cites for all the shootings. And yes, we do list shooting incidents in malls. See Trolley_Square, Hudson Valley Mall, Eastland Mall (Charlotte, North Carolina), Westroads Mall, Oak_View_Mall, Arbor_Place_Mall... So removing this information is inappropriate.

In addition to the three incidents listed in the article, there's one listed as occurring in the "Metreon parking garage". The Metreon doesn't actually have a parking garage; that's a city facility on an adjacent block. So I didn't put that one in the article. --John Nagle (talk) 04:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Restored shootings info. --John Nagle (talk) 04:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Rumors of a Target store moving in
There are rumors of a Target store moving into the Metreon.. Last week, they advanced from the rumor state to the early pre-announcement stage. . --John Nagle (talk) 18:51, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The lease has finally been signed, and construction has started. Except for the movie theaters and Jillans restaurant, all the other tenants are out. --John Nagle (talk) 05:47, 23 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Target is in and open. The Metreon is a Target store now, plus the movie theaters and a food court. Many giant Target logos on the building, with a few remaining "Metreon" signs. --John Nagle (talk) 07:27, 5 November 2012 (UTC)


 * The large "Metreon" signs have disappeared. The big signage now says "City Target". Target itself uses the name "San Francisco Central" (they also have a San Francisco West), or simply "Store Number 2766" --John Nagle (talk) 21:26, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Sold again
Sold by Westfield, bought by Starwood Retail partners in 2012, and now apparently operated by Starwood directly. An anon just changed the link, correctly. John Nagle (talk) 06:13, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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