Talk:MetroBus (Bristol)

Loss of green belt land and best and most versatile soils.
The information from the report to the planning committee is as follows:

''The NFHP scheme would result in: the permanent loss of 43 existing allotments and 24 existing smallholdings and a loss of 5.28ha BMV agricultural land.

There would be a permanent loss of 12 smallholdings and the temporary loss of 3 smallholdings (during construction).''

92.237.134.248 (talk) 09:10, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Loss of green belt land and best and most versatile soils.
But further on in the same report:

'' A scheme for the partial extinguishment of allotment use and provision of off-site mitigation to reduce the impacts of the scheme has been submitted to and considered by the Secretary of State for the Department of Communities and Local Government (DCLG). That application was consented on 14 October 2013, in advance of the full planning application for the NFHP project being submitted. Allotments are not considered within the context of an application for planning permission under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990. Sites for allotment use cannot be converted to other uses without ministerial consent under Section 8 of the Allotments Act 1925. Under this section of the Act, the Secretary of State must be convinced that arrangements for an alternative site will be made of any allotment holders displaced by the action of the local authority, unless such provision is unnecessary or not reasonably practicable.

The scheme consented under the Allotments Act 1925 proposes to address the loss of land at Stapleton Allotments by reconfiguring the allotments so as to ensure there is no loss of allotments as a consequence of the scheme. Off-site mitigation as part of the consented scheme includes proposals for a new building providing a shop, a social area, meeting room and welfare society.

As a result of the offsite mitigation: - There would be no temporary or permanent loss of allotments. - There would be a permanent loss of 12 smallholdings and the temporary loss of 3 smallholdings (during construction).'' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.35.234.68 (talk) 12:43, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

If a person has an allotment for 36 years then that plot is bulldozed there may be a replacement plot of dubious soils quality but that is effectively a loss. It takes a good number of years to bring a new allotment into good heart.

I notice that your edits are from a Bristol City Council internet address. Are you a BCC employee?

92.237.134.248 (talk) 12:30, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

The plan is for a motorway bridge with embanked link road, roundabout, bus stop and allotment community buildings. Yes green belt land is being lost, yes land is being lost from a conservation area, yes trees and hedgerows are being removed, yes long-held allotments are being bulldozed, yes wildlife is being destroyed. Yet contributor 193.35.234.68 continues to delete text referring to this instead calling them 'claims'. 92.237.134.248 (talk) 18:53, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Removal of soil dispute section compromises neutrality of article
The removal of the section about the soil dispute compromises the article's neutrality. The soils dispute is an important issue - campaigners against the scheme have made it one of their main objections. If this article is to be balanced it should contain information and evidence from the planning application which showed that the quality of the soil isn't as good as what the campaigners have been saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.35.234.68 (talk) 12:53, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

The soils across the site (allotments & smallholdings) except for the unclassifiable plots are classified as Best and Most Versatile (BMV) of grade varying from 1 to 3.

92.237.134.248 (talk) 12:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

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Map of the routes
Does anyone have access to a map of the routes of the MetroBus? Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 09:55, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Googling "Metrobus bristol map" gives you lots. TobyJ (talk) 07:17, 10 February 2019 (UTC)