Talk:Metropolis (free magazine)/Archive 1

Verifiability
I'm having a lot of trouble with this article trying to meet WP:V, if you are working on this article please add sources or remove content that is unsourced. --Simonkoldyk 17:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:V, you must cite reliable sources (not the website itself) and it must be in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Simonkoldyk (talk • contribs) 05:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC).
 * Please see Citing_sources, you have to actually cite the source in the page. --Simonkoldyk 05:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Using the magazine as its own source does not contravene the policy. What WP:V actually says is:

Self-published and dubious sources in articles about the author(s) Material from self-published sources, and published sources of dubious reliability, may be used as sources in articles about the author(s) of the material, so long as:


 * it is relevant to their notability;
 * it is not contentious;
 * it is not unduly self-serving;
 * it does not involve claims about third parties, or about events not directly related to the subject;
 * there is no reasonable doubt as to who wrote it.

Sparkzilla 05:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Even so you still need to Citing_sources cite the source on the actual page. --Simonkoldyk 05:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Citing_sources is considered a guideline. The items mentioned are not contentious, nor do they need to be referenced directly in the article. Sparkzilla 05:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable source, which should be cited in the article. From WP:V, official policy. --Simonkoldyk 05:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Who is challenging that the name was previously "Tokyo Classified"?
 * Why is there any need to challenge the number of people who attend a party?

Sparkzilla 05:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Please source "According to Japan's Audit Bureau of Circulations (ABC) the magazine is the highest distribution English magazine in Japan", in the article. --Simonkoldyk 06:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Metropolis is the only English magazine in Japan that has its distribution certified by ABC, therefore the statement is correct. The source is ABC itself, and is published in the magazine next to a Japan ABC seal mark. The statement is verifiable and sourced according to Wikipedia policy. Sparkzilla 07:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion
The largest (verifiable) English-language magazine in Japan is obviously worthy of a Wikipedia entry.

If the page was actually spam user Simonkoldyk would have requested the deletion earlier. His attempts to pick issues with the page have been countered by verifiable information. This deletion request seems simply to be motivated by spite.

From the policy WP:CSD : "Note that simply having a company, product, group or service as its subject does not qualify an article for Speedy Deletion: an article that is blatant advertising should have inappropriate content as well." Sparkzilla 09:05, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The relationship of Sparkzilla to Metropolis Magazine was not previously raised. Obviously if he is the co-owner of Metropolis this is blatant advertising. Wanzhen 07:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Advertising Warning
Please stop adding commercial material to Wikipedia. It is considered spam, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks.
 * Sparkzilla this is a warnng that you are violating Wikipedia policy regarding vandalism and advertising on the National Union of General Workers entry. Wanzhen 07:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)