Talk:Mezzanine capital

Attention & Cleanup
Currently as this article stands, it is an advertisement for JPMorgan Partners MP. Mezzanine funding/capital is more than one company, and the focus on JPMP shouldn't dominate the article. It's in severe need of attention and cleanup. &mdash;ExplorerCDT 18:19, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Possibly useful
This is text I salvaged from what is now Mezzanine (architecture):
 * Mezzanine can also mean a form of finance sometimes used in specific financial transactions. It falls into the category of Junior Debt because it is structured in a way to be structurally or contractually subordinated to the Senior Bank Debt (primarily loans from banks). This means that in a bankruptcy, the Mezzanine lenders have recourse to the company's assets only after the Senior Lenders' claims have been satisfied. It compares to High Yield Debt in that it is a private instrument, structured as a loan, as opposed to a publicly traded bond (still subordinated to the Senior Lenders). It is used in to fund highly leveraged transactions, primarily Leveraged Buy-Outs (LBOs) or Leveraged Re-Capitalisations. The differential between Mezzanine Returns and traditional returns on borrowed capital is explainable as a function of i) the higher financial risk borne by the investor by means of a higher total debt quantum and leverage, and ii) the subordinated nature of the financial claim on the Company's assets. See also globalfinanceonline.

Algae 10:29, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose that this page be merged with Mezzanine loan, preferably under the title Mezzanine loan. Finnancier (talk) 06:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Do not merge
Mezzanine capital refers to the capital of a company that consists of one or more mezzanine loans. It could also refer to an allocation of capital that an investment company, like an LBO company, is allowed to use for lending to a company or acquiring mezzanine debt from another investor or financial company like an investment bank. Mezzanine debt refers to the debt of a company consisting of mezzanine loans or, otherwise, is a generic term for a certain type of debt that is used in the business of financing. The merging of terms that mean different things, always add to the confusion of the layman and is always detrimental to the one who falls into that trap. Knowledge is in essence the ability to differentiate between things and differentiation is done through the assignment of different concepts and these are, in their turn, labelled by different words or terms or expressions. So, now the next question becomes, what is the interest of the one proposing this merger? To hide his incompetence? To cloud a subject for others? Never ever fall into the trap of taking knowledge away from Wikipedia. Please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles Tyrell (talk • contribs) 10:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Merge Carefully
I would agree that these articles are fundamentally discussing the same topic, however the way the two articles are constructed, there will need to be a rewrite to accomodoate the two separate ideas of an overarching category and a specific type of security. I would contend that Mezzanine Capital is a broad category into which subordinated loans (equity linked or not) and various types of preferred equity could even be categorized. I would propose calling the article Mezzanine Capital. Urbanrenewal (talk) 04:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

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