Talk:Michael Clarke (cricketer)/Archive 1

Untitled
whoever finishes off this page should fit in somewhere that Clarke won the Alan Border Medal, for Australia's best cricketer in 2005. Xtra 08:23, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

plagiarism?
I've found the exact text here on this website. I'm going to edit the article to make it a bit less..like...the one there...I hope whoever popped this info there doesn't mind :) --Broomballcory 14:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

And that he is a cheat. Two claimed catches in a mouth. One against New Zealand keeper batsman Hopkins and the othe against Indian bastmen Ganguly. To make enhanse this you could mention that he refuse to walk when caught a first slip by Dravid in the first innings on the second test. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.124.59 (talk) 05:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Where is the reference to him being a cheat? Just because in your opinion he is a cheat doesn't make it encyclopaedic! If you are going to add text like that it must be verifiable. Until then, stop vandalising the article. Jonesy (talk) 05:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Career (cont)
Something like this should be included

"On December 20, 2007, Clarke claimed to first of two contriversal catches of the Austrlain Cricket season 2007/08. In the third One Day International against New Zealand in Tasmainia Clarke took the ball in the slips after New Zealand keeper batsman Gareth Hopkins edged of the bowling of Brad Hogg. Hopkins asked Clarke if he had taken the catch and after which clarke said he had. Hopkins was given out, later replays showed that the ball had bounced and Hopkins should not have been given out.

On January 6, 2008, Clarke claimed to second of two contriversal slips catches during the second test against India. Off the bowling of Brett Lee Indian batsman Sourav Ganguly edged to Clarke in the slips who claimed the catch. Ganguly suspect that the ball did not carry to clarke stood his ground. Umpire Bensen asked Clarke and Captin Ricky Ponting if the ball was caught or if it had bounced. Clarke claimed he had caught the ball and Ganguly was given out. Replays showed that the ball clearly bounce infront of Clarke and should not have been given as a catch."

There are no biases shown because it is undisputed fact that both of these incidences occured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.124.59 (talk) 05:41, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

How is it undisputed fact? I am disputing it, therefore it is disputed! I don't know what replays you saw but the ones I saw were inconclusive. The fact remains, Ganguly was given out by the umpire (not Ponting or Clarke) and therefore your text should not be included in the article. Even if your uncited text was to be included, the grammar and spelling are atrocious. Jonesy (talk) 06:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xz1T9-x6eY it clearly shows the the ball has touched the ground before he has FULL control over his body and the ball. He places his ball on the ground when he is still rolling on the ground and therefore he has not got full control. Unfortuantly you are mistaken because umpire bensen could only go on pontings and clarkes word as per the aggreement made between kumble and ponting before the test series. Umpire bensen had to go on there word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.124.59 (talk) 10:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I guess Channel Nine should have had you in the commentary box, mate, because all three commentators agreed that it was impossible to tell from the camera angle whether the ball bounced or not. But, hey, what would they know? They're only retired international cricketers themselves.

I know the hacks in the press decided that the ball bounced, but they had their own prerogative - to cast Clarke and Ponting as the villains as thoroughly as possible in order to sell a ludicrous amount of papers. 210.1.205.85 (talk) 12:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

COOOL...the blame is beautifully shifted onto the Press...it might not be able to hide the fact that Clarke did cheat on atleast 2 occasions and unabashedly stood his ground in the second innings of the Sydney test after being cleanly caught in the slips by Rahul Dravid, of course several centimetres ABOVE the ground!!! Probably, he was indirectly begging the umpire to call for a "no-ball"

Later, in the ODI tri series that followed the test series, in finals against India, he displayed his cheap mentality to needlessly pull Sachin Tendulkar standing in the non strikers end down to the ground so as to prevent an easy single. Kudos to the "pup" that he made the whole act so natural that it was only from the replays one could spot the deliberate intention! I would suggest "Silent cheater" be added to his nicknames along with "pup" :))))Brainfour (talk) 07:13, 24 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brainfour (talk • contribs) 07:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

crystal ball??
Statements about someones obvious popularity with the crowd and cricket commentators/journalists are against wikipedia rules? I wasn't aware of this one. Would quotes be better? Because I am sure there are quotes out there to the effect of the statements that were deleted. Ansell 23:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I recognise that it was pov to put comments relating to popularity and the future. Ironically, what I was aiming to do to the michael clarke article was not to put a pov spin on it. I started editing the article because it contained poor grammar, with the use of the word and to both conjugate multiple sentences into one and to split sentences. Sorry for the inconvenience. Ansell 00:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

no photo
Good article, easy to read and comprehensive... but there's no picture of Clarkie!! Hmmm. What if someone were to email Clarke's management team and ask for a promotional image of Michael Clarke to use on Wikipedia? Would he (or she) get a reply?Teebs101 08:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

whether he or she gets a reply, you can always get a snap of your pup at home and post it here Brainfour (talk) 07:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

married
Clarke isn't married, just engaged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.94.199.27 (talk) 02:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

High Score
Has anyone noticed that Clarke's highest test score is listed at 170, yet in the list of his test centuries, there is no 170? The highest score there is 168. Something's gone wrong.58.160.33.191 (talk) 04:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * His score was 170* during his innings on 4 January - someone was probably just updating as the match was going. His innings finished on 5 January at 329*, as the article now indicates.  EdChem (talk) 11:46, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Is Michael Clarke related to George Clarke
Does anyone know if Michael Clarke (australian cricket captain) is related to George Clarke (Host of "Renovation Man" on Lifestyle, a British show)? Definite facial similarity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.166.44.193 (talk) 10:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Eminem resemblance
Yes the first in-line ref does back up the view that at some point he might have had a resemblance to Eminem, but to assert that this resemblance is one of the reasons he is a favourite with Australian cricket fans is going a bit too far. And especially to be saying this in the leading paragraph. I'd say this assertion has to go. - Sticks  66  01:26, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It definitely has to go. The first ref is from Clarke's own website, so not a third party source. Possibly good for an entry under "Nickname" in the infobox, but certainly not for any "crowd favourite" claim. The crowd reactions to Clarke are relevant, but more for the negative reception he has received in the past. The Herald Sun article cited doesn't seem relevant at all. StAnselm (talk) 02:07, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Infobox pic
Cannot we really put a better image at the infobox? -- Extra   999  (Contact me) 09:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

skyscraper graph needs updating
121.99.255.173 (talk) 07:10, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Test career graph still needs updating, and at the same time re-scaling. Might also be good to denote the time on the graph where he became full time test captain. I'm happy to do it if no-one has any objections - also, if anyone has any recommendations on any certain method to do it, please let me know. At this stage I'm just assuming cricinfo data dumped into Excel and charted to look the same. Ncotton100 (talk) 07:34, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Error with name.
There was an error with the name and said something else. I think I fixed it ... for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 333lewis333 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Career
Article says: "Michael Clarke made his debut for Australia as an eighteen-year-old in the 1999–2000 Sheffield Shield." Since the Shield is an interstate competition, not an international one, he cannot have made his debut for Australia in it. Can someone who knows the full facts and a reference please edit? Mike Spathaky (talk) 02:24, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Subject image
I've moved an image from the middle of the article back up into the infobox as I always feel it's better to have something at the top.

But this brings us back to an earlier request for a better and updated photo of the subject. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 20:58, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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FC career stats
There is no First Class data in the intro box. Easily gettable from the ESPNcricinfo link (but not easy to add to intro box). MBG02 (talk) 23:50, 3 August 2018 (UTC)