Talk:Michael Collins (film)

Reception
Anyone know how much money the film made in total, or if it was a success internationally ? Wikipedia usually has an overall box office figure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.208.7 (talk) 20:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * Michael Collins and Harry Boland were still friends at the time of Harry's death according to Dail Debate in which Harry Boland Calls Michael Collins his 'good friend'.In the movie they still talk to each just before Harry's innacurate death.This shows that in the movie they remained friends.I assume your line 'close friend-turned-enemy' is your own opinion and therefore should be removed.
 * Give proof that Collins 'authored the controversial oath of allegiance'.
 * 'the misrepresentation of some of the content of the Dáil debates on the Treaty (in particular the impression that the partition of Ireland comprised a major issue in the Dáil debates when in reality it received scant mention'.This a pointless statement because the issue was discused in the Dail in reality.
 * 2 Footbalers were killed according to Bloody Sunday (1920).
 * The fact that the Black'n'Tans killed 2 footballers 'and not half a team' is also a poorly made point as this act was still a cowardly act.The fact that they only killed 'a number',which by the way was 13,dosn't make a difference it was still a classicly disgraceful British act.This point is highly inaccurate,because as I already said 2 footballers were killed and not one as the article says,and should be removed all together.
 * There is a far better chance that Collins was shot dead by irregulars considering the fact that they ambushed him and he was the only one to die.They then fled the scene after they killed Collins.This point could also do with being scrapped.--Fenian Swine 02:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * "2 Footbalers were killed according to Bloody Sunday (1920)." This is not true. Michael Hogan and Jim Egan were hit by bullets. Hogan died, Egan survived. EamonnPKeane 18:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Removed the line "Collins' assertion that Irish people would be 'cannon fodder in the Somme' suggests conscription had been introduced. It had not, though it was certainly proposed."- it makes no sense and demonstrates a lack of understanding of the issue. The British (naturally) supported the John Redmond-led National Volunteer side in the split of the Irish Volunteers in 1914; The National Volunteers, Home Rule having been put on the books, called upon its ranks and all Volunteers to join the British Army during the First World War, while the Irish Volunteers movement stayed loyal to its cause of preserving Irish liberties, going on to provide many of the troops used in the Easter Rising. So, Collins, who remained an Irish Volunteer after the split, was merely pointing out that the Irishmen of the National Volunteers were off in the Somme (and Suvla and Sud El Bar), fighting for a country that was not their own.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

The Armoured Car
Why isn't the fictional 'Armoured Car Incident' not in the Differences section?

In real life it appears the armoured car was outside the gates and only fired into the air.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/features/daily-features/article2298260.ece http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/calm-down-lads-you-do-realise-its-only-a-game-122103.html http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3686/is_200304/ai_n9216122/pg_18

Anyone mind if I add it in? Starviking (talk) 11:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Dev
I am nit picking but who keeps called him Valera instead of De Velera or Dev, ire really annoying to read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Errlloyd (talk • contribs) 02:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Plot
Recent, mostly anonymous, additions to the plot section have been entirely too expansive. The plot section should summarize the film, not offer a blow-by-blow, minute-by-minute recitation of the film. This needs to be severely edited, or simply reverted back to an earlier version. ---  RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive' 17:35, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Cast
There is no point in listing minor roles, even if they are notable Irish persons from Irish history, played by actors not notable enough to have their own articles. This is simply needless use of space. Furthermore, the details about casting should go in the production section. ---  RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive' 01:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

These Irish flags
Unless I would be mistaken, almost all the Irish flags featured in the film were in the shape of 2 by 3, and not 1 by 2. Was that common in the early 20th. century? --83.108.30.141 (talk) 23:20, 24 July 2010 (UTC)