Talk:Michael Gove

Extremism in schools
Gove's record is covered in the podcast The Trojan Horse Affair, particularly Episodes 4 and 5. May be useful material for the article there? Rankersbo (talk) 13:25, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Education in infobox
It seems to be common practice to add secondary school or college for this parameter. But if you look at Template:Infobox person it actually says: "Education, e.g., degree, institution and graduation year, if relevant. If very little information is available or relevant, the?? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Date of the image
The lead image's caption states that the photograph was taken in 2021, but I have found it being used on the internets in 2020. Either the image was taken 1 year after it had been used or it was taken in 2020 or before. I have changed it in the past but it has always been reverted to 2021. I will change it to 2020 until further discussion. Thank you. Tim O&#39;Doherty (talk) 20:32, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I am the uploader of the image and also one of the people who reverted it to 2021. At first I thought it was taken in this year, as the EXIF metadata of the GOV.UK image says that it was taken on 20 September 2021 at 13:49 pm. However, this image appears to be a crop of the full image uploaded onto Flickr, and the EXIF data also says that the programme for the GOV.UK file was Adobe Photoshop, though there is no date of acquisition listed. The EXIF data for the Flickr image does not state when the image was taken, nor does it state what programme or camera was used, etc. It is possible that the image was taken in 2020 and not 2021, though we cannot confirm this yet either. Do you remember where you saw it used in 2020? ThatRandomGuy1 (talk) 20:45, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Michael Gove Official Cabinet Portrait, September 2021.jpg
 * I've uploaded a cropped version of this official portrait dated 15 September 2021. I'm replacing the infobox image with that as it's only older than the current image by five days if the latter's GOV.UK EXIF data is correct, and unlike the current image it is not yet questionable when it was taken. It's also consistent with other Johnson cabinet ministers such as Priti Patel and Nadine Dorries. I think the old image should be put back if its date is confirmed to be 20 September 2021 though, since most politicians' infoboxes use their most recent official portrait available on Commons. Similarly, if a more recent official portrait is uploaded to Commons I think we should use that instead. ThatRandomGuy1 (talk) 16:19, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find the exact place where I saw the first use, but I did find this slightly odd tweet published on September 11, 2020. I don't think that tweets can be edited, and as the photo is attached, I believe it to be proof enough that the photo was taken during or before 2020. Tim O&#39;Doherty (talk) 22:01, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Robert Gordon School
I think you will find that Michael Gove went to Robert Gordon School and not Robert Gordon College. 92.10.224.227 (talk) 11:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Could you quote a source? This BBC news page quotes Gove as saying, "When I look back at the 15-year-old I was, lurking at the back of your French class at Robert Gordon's College in Aberdeen, I cringe." Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

30 May 2024?
What's the basis for saying that he stopped being Member of Parliament for Surrey Heath on May 30, 2024 when the article on his successor in that seat says the successor took office in July 2024? Did Gove resign? If he resigned or was expelled, say so. If he didn't, explain why the seat was vacant for all of June of 2024. The same May 30 date is given in the article on Liz Truss. If the U.K. deems it feasible to have its legislature cease to exist for a month, such a mind-bogglingly incredible fact needs to be footnoted in articles where it is relevant. What if a natural disaster had created an urgent need for new legislation in June of 2024? Who or what would be in charge if not The House Of Commons? For Members who won re-election on July 4th, is Wikipedia going to ensure that their time in office shows a gap in June 2024? If the re-elected persons are going to be represented by Wikipedia as having a period of service INCLUDING June of 2024, then what is the basis for asserting that those who did NOT win re-election (or did not run/stand) had a term of service NOT including May 2024? Either The House Of Commons exists all the time or it doesn't. One thing I'd like someone researching this to check is any kind of pension or seniority based on the length of service, to see if those lengths-of-service really do exclude June of 2024 or run all the say to July 4th of 2024.2600:1700:6759:B000:E894:BFCC:705D:880 (talk) 22:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson


 * Parliament was dissolved on 30 May, so that is when Gove ceased to be an MP. See Dissolution of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. DuncanHill (talk) 22:37, 7 July 2024 (UTC)