Talk:Michel Rivard

Requested move 21 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: Not moved  buidhe 21:00, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Michel Rivard → Michel Rivard (musician) – Procedural nomination, because I had to revert an undiscussed arbitrary page move. This page has stood at the plain undisambiguated title Michel Rivard since the day it was first created in 2005, but within the past 24 hours it was arbitrarily moved to Michel Rivard (musician), with no evidence of any discussion to establish a consensus for that, on the grounds that a musician is not more important than a politician. But establishing a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is not a question of assessing the relative importance-in-principle of the two Michel Rivards' roles — it's a question of assessing their respective fame-in-reality among the general public. Of course, I'm willing to respect wherever consensus lands — but this is strictly a procedural nomination because I reverted an undiscussed page move, and is not meant to be interpreted as support, because I don't believe that there's even a question as to which Michel Rivard is more famous in the real world. Bearcat (talk) 17:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * For additional evidence, if you type just "Michel Rivard" into a Google search without specifying an occupation, you get hits relating overwhelmingly to the musician. And even if you type "Michel Rivard politician", the very fourth hit (after the English and French Wikipedia articles and one news article about the senator quitting the Conservative caucus in 2016) is a short news brief which exists specifically to clarify that the musician wasn't appointed to the senate: its headline is literally "No, the PM didn't appoint *that* Michel Rivard". Which also goes to prove that the musician is more famous than the politician, because Kady O'Malley would literally never had to write that at all if he wasn't. Bearcat (talk) 17:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)


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