Talk:Michelle Mone, Baroness Mone/Archive 1

DoB inconsistency
The lead says October, ibox and pdata say September. Anyone have a source to verify either? – ukexpat (talk) 16:04, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

[88.111.185.197]
case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.185.197 (talk) 22:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Birth Surname
Anyone got this? RafikiSykes (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Reverted Changes
"Provided sources do not support these claims." - meatsgains

Which "claims" are not supported? Sources are BBC, Herald Scotland, and information taken from statutory records? I've removed a percentage calculation that was not quoted in the article. Happy to amend anything else that is not covered by these sources, if you can explain what you are talking about exactly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.96.170 (talk) 23:39, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Wiki washing by Subject's PR team
Hi all,

For your info some edits have just been undone in light of this newspaper article:-

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13614216.Michelle_Mone_s_office_guilty_of__Wiki_Washing__her_online_biography/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.203.233.90 (talk) 06:51, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Overlinked
I've removed wikilinks to several common terms: it's probably safe to assume that most Wikipedia readers don't need to have words such as "business" and "bra" explained to them ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 12:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Recent edits
I recently removed the Public relations section from the page. The section was then restored to the page by Hangingonthetelephone. The content has since been restructured and moved. Rather than engaging in an edit war, I wanted to address the issue here. Although I was bold in removing the entire section in one sweeping edit, my question is whether or not the content should be remain. IMO, the information is insignificant and WP:UNDUE. I'm not opposed to restoring some of the content with a revision, but most is unencyclopedic. Meatsgains (talk) 03:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I did feel the titled "Public Relations" was a little contentious, but most of the information were major news stories in the UK, so deserved to stay. Thanks for getting rid of the Ice Bucket Challenge thing, though, that was useless. Hangingonthetelephone (talk) 18:54, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Possible BLP issues
She is not a member of Reform Club. Please, do not add it without any independent reliable source. --Hailingson (talk) 17:07, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Global speaker
What the fuck is a 'global speaker'? 31.50.156.94 (talk) 22:46, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 22 April 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved  (t &#183; c)  buidhe  18:07, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Michelle Mone, Baroness Mone of Mayfair → Michelle Mone, Baroness Mone – Life peerage titles are formed of main part and territorial designation. They are separated by comma and usually only the main part is used. According to The London Gazette, her full title is Baroness Mone, of Mayfair in the City of Westminster: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2409420. Therefore, the main part of her title is Baroness Mone and 'of Mayfair' is only a part of the territorial designation. In addition, she is called Baroness Mone on the UK Parliament website: https://members.parliament.uk/member/4544/contact. See also WP:NCPEER. Editor FIN (talk) 04:46, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Absolutely true. Her title is simply Baroness Mone, as clearly shown in the London Gazette. Contrast Baron Gilbert of Panteg on the same announcement, whose title does include a geographical identifier. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Guardian: Tory peer Michelle Mone secretly involved in PPE firm she referred to government
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/06/tory-peer-michelle-mone-involved-ppe-medpro-government-contracts

. John Cummings (talk) 16:38, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Added this to the article now, thanks! --AFreshStart (talk) 16:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

FT sources
See https://www.ft.com/content/fc9d3b82-de7b-3e67-bd3c-835575172608 and https://www.ft.com/content/6359e4c8-312b-4747-ba4d-3f2779abf26f. SmartSE (talk) 22:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Tax avoidance
There doesn't seem to be much justification above for why this information was removed. The sourcing seems pretty solid with what was removed:  and there are also mentions in The Observer and The Times. SmartSE (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm certainly in favour of including this in the article again. —AFreshStart (talk) 14:16, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just re-added the info that was deleted now! FT sources below look good, but unfortunately I can't view them. I think the article would benefit from including them. Thanks! —AFreshStart (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Looks good. I can email you copies of the FT source if you like. SmartSE (talk) 16:47, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

PPE Medpro
I've given the Medpro scandal its own section as it's a long running issue and I've added quite a lot of information, more to add also - it's really in need of a re-write, but as it's a story developing day by day this can wait a little. Zenichiro (talk) 11:01, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Business performance
Her Ultimo business never seemed to have made a profit after her husband left - in fact, none of her businesses seemed to have made a profit - most of which were just selling snakeoil, breast enlargement creams, diet pills that she claims lost her 8 stone, which she later claimed was due to exercise etc. Zenichiro (talk) 11:01, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Television & Media
She really does need a section on this - her main 'business' and apparently most profitable pursuit is media, public speaking and self-promotion Zenichiro (talk) 11:01, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * We did have a separate television section on here, but it was difficult to find sources on this that weren't unreliable per se but still rather tabloid-y (mostly The Mirror). —AFreshStart (talk) 13:25, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Place of birth
Whereabout in the East End of Glasgow? It IS a big place, after all. I spent a quarter century there and there are a lot of districts.80.43.38.21 (talk) 18:19, 1 June 2015 (UTC) Lance Tyrell

I've been through Scotland's People, which contains the legal records of births, deaths and marriages, and through Ancestry. I've found the references in her autobiography confirming the dates of birth of her 3 names children and her marriage to Michael John Mone. The marriage shows her name to be Michelle Georgi[-] Allan all in Martha Street, Glasgow. Sebmelmoth (talk) 16:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

We've been published in a reliable source!
See this report showing that this article from a supposed-RS has loads of content directly copied from the article including the bit about her divorce and children that removed earlier today. There's a template somewhere to add to the top to make sure nobody uses it as a source, but I can't remember which one it is. SmartSE (talk) 19:10, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Are you thinking of Template:Backwards copy? That seems to be more about making sure people don't mark this as a copyvio of the article that copied from Wikipedia's article but it was the closest that came to mind. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 19:51, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * LOL. Never mind, I see you beat me to it. :) AlistairMcMillan (talk) 19:52, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Truly shocking! It just shows how easy it is to feed fake news into the mainstream media. -- DeFacto (talk). 20:19, 7 December 2022 (UTC)