Talk:Mick Jones (The Clash guitarist)/Archive 1

Recent Projects
The phrase 'Jones has become an occasional producer' implies this is a recent thing whereas Jones has been producing albums since at least 1982, namely 'Westworld' by Theatre of Hate. 86.29.85.68 16:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

MPfree
Why is there a citation needed for this sentence? If you have heard the song, clearly the point of the song is to promote P2P filesharing. Jlee562 18:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I added a citation/ref

You're Fired!
Why was Jones "fired" from The Clash? Seems odd that they'd suddenly slip a founding member a pink slip.--Agent Aquamarine 03:12, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

He started not getting along with Joe Strummer, as far as I understand. They were both a little drama queen-y by the end. 4.178.132.173 18:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

There were several issues, including Bernie Rhodes, who became quite obsessive over the group, as well as Mick's own self admitted rock star tendencies. Jlee562 04:37, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Thatcherite Policies?
Thatcher didn't become PM until 1979, so I'm struggling to see how his childhood struggles (late 60s/early 70s) can be put down to "Thatcherite Policies".

User:clumsyk 08:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Birth year
Was Mick Jones not born in 1953, as per the following websites -, , , , ?

Derek R Bullamore 20:30, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

More needed on the Clash years
I'm aware that the Clash has it's own article, but surely there should be slightly more here on Jones' involvement? SteveRamone 17:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Jewish
Is he Jewish? Anyone got some reference?

here and outed as Jewish in Guy Oseary’s 2000 tome "Jews Who Rock" to be fair, he might be claimed as jewish as his mum is a jew. not sure if that makes HIM jewish. It does make him Jewish. In Judaism, the religion of a child is determined by the mothers religion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.73.201 (talk) 23:07, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
Here are the trivia items cut from the article today:


 * Jones produced the 1982 Theatre of Hate album "Westworld", editing snippets of film dialogue into the songs, a technique he was to develop further with Big Audio Dynamite.¶
 * Jones has a cameo appearance in the 2003 film Code 46, singing the Clash song "Should I Stay or Should I Go" in a karaoke club.¶
 * Jones could be seen in the video for the Babyshambles and friends cover of The Clash song, "Janie Jones", which was recorded for the Strummerville foundation.¶
 * In 2006, Jones was seen in the music video for the Johnny Cash song, "God's Gonna Cut You Down".¶
 * Big Audio Dynamite's "E=MC2" is generally credited as the very first song to use a sampling technique.¶
 * Joe Strummer and Paul Simonon of The Clash play the two police officers in the video for Big Audio Dynamite's "Medicine Show".¶
 * Mick Jones is a supporter of football team QPR.¶
 * Mick Jones is Jewish.

Wwwhatsup (talk) 23:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

MANAGER OF THE BAND THE DEAD MILKMEN??????
Approximately 1990 or so I saw the Dead Milkmen in SF, and their lead singer was so drunk, Mick came out and sang a whole bunch of Clash songs with them backing him. Is there any info on this show, or period. I am starting to think I was crazy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unclefishbits (talk • contribs) 23:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

You are crazy. Wwwhatsup (talk) 23:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Guitars
I seem to remember seeing Mick use a Roland GR-700 / G-707 guitar synthesizer live with BAD in support of the album "This Is Big Audio Dynamite." BigMeanie (talk) 07:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I wasn't imagining things. This image from a BAD fan site: http://www.esmark.net/bad/pics/bad-1-007.jpg -BigMeanie (talk) 07:47, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

instruments
since strummer and simonomon have got boxes of which tell of their instruments, why cant jones have one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.109.6 (talk) 20:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No reason at all. However, if it turns out to be of a similar quality to the present section for Paul Simonon - don't bother !  It is presently unreferenced fancruft and POV.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Move from Mick Jones (The Clash) to Mick Jones (Singer, born 1955)
Personally, I don't like it. Yes there are various Mick Jones's, and they play guitar and sing. Very few people when looking for this one will know when any of them were born. The one thing that recognizably identifies this Mick Jones, and the main cause of his notability, is his membership of The Clash, regardless of his subsequent career. And, while he did sing, and compose, his prime function was lead guitarist. I say it wasn't broke, why fix it? Wwwhatsup (talk) 07:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a rather unorthodox disambiguation. I am not comfortable with it either. Nymf hideliho! 18:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Me neither. Despite being a lifelong follower of rock music, neither 'singer' nor 'born 1955' would lead me to this Mick Jones. The band connection certainly does, even 'rock guitarist' might be better than what we now have. Under what part of 'Wikipedia naming conventions' do you have to put up with a styling that does not easily identify someone ?!


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I left a message at the talk page of the person who did the move. If he has no real rationale/consensus for the move, we can probably go ahead and revert it. Nymf hideliho! 22:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I see the response: ''Noting the moves, I had thought that there was a specific naming convention that is supposed to be used that doesn't identify by band name for persons, but only by singers. The moves presumed naming conventions. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 12:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)'' Wwwhatsup (talk) 07:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I reverted it. Wwwhatsup (talk) 07:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I did not like it either. Well done, thank you all! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv (talk) 08:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Mick Jones (The Clash) → Mick Jones (guitarist) — Or something with a better dab. Why Mick Jones (The Clash) and not Mick Jones (Big Audio Dynamite)? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


 * If you want to know the real reason, it’s because (a) the guy from Foreigner also was a guitarist and (b) comparatively few people have heard of Big Audio Dynamite. Filing them both by birth year would be a better long-term option. See also a pair of drummers named Roger Taylor. ―cobaltcigs 11:21, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Although the current title might be less than ideal, it's better than the proposed title per User:Cobaltcigs's comment above. What should be moved is the other musical Mick Jones article from Mick Jones (singer) to Mick Jones (Foreigner) (where it used to be until earlier this year) for the same reasons.  —   AjaxSmack   01:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Against. The Clash are far more notable. It would be like listing Paul McCartney as Paul McCartney (Wings). Agree with comment directly above. Wwwhatsup (talk) 05:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I moved the other guy back to Mick Jones (Foreigner). Propaniac (talk) 20:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Contradiction
In the infobox, it says that Jones' middle name is Geoffrey, but in the lead, it says his middle name is Lewis. Which one is it? Somebody please respond so I or somebody else can fix it. --BLAguyMONKEY! (talk) 11:46, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

New info on Mick Jones
I am reading Viv Albertine's memoir called "Clothes, Clothes, Clothes, Music, Music, Music, Boys, Boys, Boys". It is wonderful. Many details missing from the article are in the book. The "squat" discussed in the beginning of the article is Viv's squat and she allowed the guys to start up the band there. Best of luck with the new information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.116.55 (talk) 17:36, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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Mick's children and wife
I was reading on a page that interviewed some 'Rock star kids'. It had 2 of Mick Jones's children who were called 'Ava Sarah Jones' and 'Stella Katherine Jones'. Their mother is Miranda Davis who is a film producer.

Here is the article about his children (they are within the last half of the article): https://i-d.vice.com/en_gb/article/meet-the-rock-star-kids

Here is the article about his wife: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3460509/Clash-rocker-s-film-producer-wife-slapped-jeweller-face-smashed-nearly-5-000-worth-necklaces.html

He has an older daughter, Lauren, who you may have some information about already, but here is some more: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20115988,00.html

I hope this helps improving the article on Mick Jones! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minny1122 (talk • contribs) 15:11, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Minny1122 (talk) 15:13, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Richard Archer
"Friendship with Richard Archer" is not a "project" and any collaboration between the two is too slight to belong in the "Recent Projects." It seems Mick Jones produced a few tracks for Richard Archer's band Contempo (about 20 years ago), but there is a whole section for Jones' production work and I don't think this is notable enough to even include there. Mick was apparently a fan of Archer's later group, Hard-Fi (but this is not a project or particularly notable) and played with them live on two songs at an award show and perhaps a handful of other times. Obviously they were friends but I don't think that is notable. I expect they each have some friends. Honestly, including it here seems like a crass attempt to boost Richard Archer's bona fides. Deleting. 140.163.0.5 (talk) 16:48, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SIiaTBv34

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