Talk:Micro-Star International

Reads Like an Advertisement
Don't get me wrong, I love MSI, but this article reads like an advertisement! It's unacceptable for Wikipedia. – Lunarbunny 06:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and it still does 9 years later. I mean, what's the point of listing all those awards.  They have nothing to do with an encyclopedic article... 84.49.75.226 (talk) 11:15, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Advert banner was added November 2015 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro-Star_International&oldid=691251115) and removed the next day (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro-Star_International&oldid=691314069). I'll readd it... 24.130.94.168 (talk) 10:47, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Should be rewritten
This article is terrible, first the capacitor plague is a 2000-2001 occurance I used to run a computer store who dealt in oem parts and the capacitor problem was mostly an abit problem msi and asus and other high-end boards' capacitor failed no more than the average of capacitor of this capacitance and voltage this problem has been overstated because some manufacturers were especially prone to early capacitor leakage beside this article provide no source other than the "capacitor plague" wikipedia article which itself has very little sources

In all the mention of the capacitor problem (for which MSI and other (even Abit) can't be blamed for having been sold counterfeits that can't be economically time-tested before product launch) is taking way too much space .. I mean it's half the arcticle !

Also the msi logo should be cropped, the "Press  to switch to POST or  to run BIOS setup" at the bottom is very amateurish

"MSI products are sold as OEM parts" if that is true every computer part in existance is also "OEM" not only the feel of the use of that word is nearly derogatory but it's plain wrong as even HP/Compaq and Dell used their products at some point wikipedia at domn dot net

Ugh
Sorry, but this page is indicative of all of Wikipedia: poorly written, bad grammar, non-existant maintenence, etc. etc.. I've been working as hard as I can with what little time I have, making new computer related articles, cleaning many up (just finished ASUS), but man, the task at hand is too big. DoomBringer 07:35, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, what is the deal with the external link? It goes to the Abit settlement, not MSI one. DoomBringer 06:32, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This article is hardly neutral. It all starts with ''This means product quality suffers at MSI. Remember you must choose two: good, cheap, fast.'' Perhaps even the preceeding sentence is questionable.

Any other opinions?

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This is hardly a neutral article at all. This should either be edited to reflect a neutral POV, or be removed entirely.

The events detailed in this article occured over 2 years ago, and have no direct relevance to the company's present-day product line quality or reputation.

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I'm adding a NPOV then.

T2X 23:43, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

...Heh... Already there...

T2X 23:43, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

MSI RULEZ
They make the best mobos out there. I got my FX-53 running at 4 gHz on a neo4 platinum
 * I tend to agree, but the encyclopedia article shouldn't have that in it. Next time you want to mess around, use the sandbox. DoomBringer 06:30, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Notebooks
MSI also manufactures barebone notebooks as well, mostly rebranded by Averatec. VoodooPC also uses one of their notebooks (MSI-1013). http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/index.asp

Media Centers
They also build barebone media centers which are placed in the centeral part of the house; the living room. http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=MEGA_865_PRO&class=mega

MP3 players
MSI also manufactures MP3 players, some of which are entry-level and are sold very cheaply.

The tres el-cheapo MS-538 model (sold in Estonia for 340 EEK and a bit less around Nov/Dec 2005–Jan 2006... Prices in Germany have hovered around &euro;17,00–19,00 near end of 2005 and beginning of 2006) has no internal memory, so an SD or MMC memory card must be acquired separately. Headphones (earbuds) are not of very high quality /according to reviews. Sound quality is equal to radio quality; then again, for an entry-level item, this seems acceptable.

A regular AAA battery lasts up to eight hours. Accu-batteries are suggested to avoid buying AAA batteries all the time. The memory card limit was up to 512Mb, so files with a constant 128 kbit/s bitrate are suggested &mdash; for acceptable audio and also more listening material.

Some good points:
 * Cheap initial price;
 * AAA accu-batteries can be changed to types that last longer. I'd expect future types of AAA accu-batteries to last longer anyway, if there will be any advancement in battery technology of convetional batteries that have predetermined sizes &mdash;
 * "With the exception of lead-acid batteries, most Ni-MH batteries can be recharged 500-1000 times while Ni-CD batteries can only be recharged about 400 times." &mdash; Batteries

I still wonder, which type of batteries, either nickel-cadmium or nickel metal-hydride are good for daily use for such an item... The latter doesn't last as long, but is more environmentally friendly. The former lasts longer, is less environmentally friendly and maybe poses some dangers, that Ni-MH batteries don't possess.


 * I've gotten some new information regarding the abovementioned player, but I have written it like a user review. I am planning to compare articles on other manufacturers' MP3-player models and see if my information is good for publishing on WikiPedia or WikiBooks, perhaps... Although I'm still leaning in favour of Wikipedia.

Infobox...
I drew up a new SVG logo and added an infobox. I'm terrible at research, so there's no guarantee that my information is accurate. Feel free to fix any mistakes you see.

disgraceful
this page has been written by the marketing wing of MSI. please remove it, wikipedia is no place to advertise your company


 * Agreed. This is nothing but crap.  I tried to remove the blatently biased material, but after doing so the article was about 6 lines long.  Somebody needs to do a rewrite :/


 * Concur. My idea is to get a relatively normal version from history and then add information that was added later, without it sounding like it came straight from marketing.
 * From history, 203.177.236.244 traces back to here:

10  233 ms   230 ms   224 ms  peer1.ldn1.flagtel.com [195.66.224.146] 11  251 ms   307 ms   307 ms  so-1-0-0.0.cjr04.alx001.flagtel.com [62.216.129.202] 12  342 ms   317 ms   491 ms  so-3-3-0.0.cjr04.hkg003.flagtel.com [62.216.128.218] 13  512 ms   530 ms   501 ms  62.216.146.38 14  500 ms   495 ms     *     so-0-0-0.0.cjr04.hkg003.flagtel.com [62.216.128.106] 15  540 ms   498 ms   491 ms  62.216.146.38 16  562 ms     *      524 ms  203.177.150.201 17  545 ms   516 ms   507 ms  global.hgc.com.hk [218.189.23.106] 18  574 ms   540 ms   527 ms  203.177.150.201 19    *      517 ms   510 ms  203.177.31.90 20    *        *      552 ms  203.177.197.162 --timeouts from here on
 * -Mardus 16:19, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I traced article history for a bit and then found out that advertising text was written by User:Borko.radojkovic (see his contributions). Important stuff about MSI that remained for some time was removed and I personally think a revert should have been done. -Mardus 00:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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MSI link and use of the name
I've noticed some discrepancies. MSI should only be written with capital letters, the logo is in small print so all references to "MSi, Msi, msi" etc are wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neliz (talk • contribs) 01:35, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Suspected Conflict of Interest
User:59.125.101.61 is a Taiwanese IP address. This IP has exclusively edited the MSI page since 2013 by removing vandalism and adding awards. In addition, it has removed Template:Advert tags twice (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro-Star_International&diff=prev&oldid=679216685 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro-Star_International&diff=prev&oldid=679216994 double-undo) (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro-Star_International&diff=prev&oldid=734540599 ).

I suspect this is MSI PR attempting to "preserve" their image by removing advertisement tags. Jimbo1qaz (talk) 03:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Trimmed PR back to reasonable level. Left in pictures of products. John Nagle (talk) 19:12, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

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This article seriously needs a rewrite.
I'll look to getting to rewriting it from scratch, but in the meantime if any of you would like to give it a go use the sandbox and flag down a draftee checker to be sure. - MountainKemono (talk) 13:38, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

founders of wikipedia
https;//en wikipedia.org/wiki/talk;micro-star_internnational 2A02:2F0E:5310:FF00:6151:1409:8523:BA9 (talk) 14:34, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Missing info about the MSI UEFI BIOS signing key leak
See, for example, https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/05/leak-of-msi-uefi-signing-keys-stokes-concerns-of-doomsday-supply-chain-attack/ 199.247.42.77 (talk) 20:35, 19 June 2023 (UTC)