Talk:Microbiota (disambiguation)

Requested move 27 January 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: three articles moved, three not moved. Despite being left open for almost a month, this RM has attracted relatively little input. There does not appear to be consensus in favour of moving the latter three articles (with flora in the title), but no apparent opposition to the first three suggestions. Therefore the first three articles will be moved, but not the flora ones. Number  5  7  16:21, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

– "Microbiota" should link to the article currently titled "Microbiome" (Microbiota decussata was visited 1,393 times in the last 90 days while Microbiome was visited 34,614 times). Regarding the other moves, the articles are about a group of micro-organisms in a specific environment (called "microbiota") while "microbiome" is the name given to their collective genetic material (see and ). It would be easier to adopt the common current scientific terminology to make everything clear (but to keep the historical "flora" name in the first sentence of each article). Kevo Strevin (talk) 20:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Microbiota → Microbiota (disambiguation)
 * Microbiome → Microbiota
 * Human microbiome → Human microbiota
 * Gut flora → Gut microbiota
 * Skin flora → Skin microbiota
 * Vaginal flora → Vaginal microbiota


 * Kevo Strevin, I'm not sure that the way you've requested these moves is correct, since editors watching those articles won't be aware of this discussion unless they have the Microbiota WP:Disambiguation page on their WP:Watchlists like I do. Out of the other pages above, I watch the Gut flora and Vaginal flora articles. I know that Jytdog and Zefr, two editors other than myself who edit medical articles, watch the Gut flora article; so I've pinged them to this talk page via WP:Echo. What we have here is WP:Common name (a policy) vs. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles (a guideline), which is similar to the recent sexually transmitted disease vs. sexually transmitted infection WP:Requested move discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 20:21, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see that a bot has done the notifying across the board; for example, here; so I struck part of my post above. Flyer22 (talk) 20:23, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree that "flora" has a significant historical importance. After discussion, we could decide to replace it by the modern scientific term of "microbiota" (and also rename List of human flora) or not. But even if we choose to keep it, the first three request remains fully relevant. What do you think? Kevo Strevin (talk) 20:25, 27 January 2015 (UTC).
 * Agree that "flora" remains a relevant term with redirect to "microbiota" as indicated. --Zefr (talk) 15:17, 28 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose moving "flora" articles as per WP:COMMONNAME (and arguably even WP:UE) but neutral on the others. Red Slash 02:53, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Non-existent reference in Vaginal microbiota
I am cleaning up the mycoplasma article and came across this reference in the Vaginal microbiota article since it was listed as a reference containing information on the bacteria genus, mycoplasma. But I can find no evidence that this book even exists: Hillier, S. L. 2008. Normal genital flora, p. 289–307, Sex. Transm. Dis. McGraw-Hill Companies, New York. Can anyone help on this, I've tried searching library catalogs, google scholar, amazon, no hits that confirm that the text even exists. Best Regards,
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 * It's not a book; it seems to be an attempt to give a reference to a journal article in the journal Sexually Transmitted Diseases. Although "SL Hillier" has co-authored papers in this journal according to Google Scholar, I can't find this one, and nothing with an even similar title shows up searching for the journal name and 2008. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:00, 20 April 2015 (UTC)