Talk:Midland and Great Northern Joint Railway

Badge/Coat of Arms
A Coat of Arms is the heraldic bearing of an individual or family or of a corporate body, such as a town or city. It has to be granted by the College of Arms. A Grant of Arms is a formal legal document which describes the recipient, illustrates the Coat of Arms bestowed and describes it in writing. This is a very obscure branch of law, but basically it is illegal for anybody to claim that their logo is a Coat of Arms unless it is covered by such a document and is identical to what is described (a certain artistic licence is allowed, but not much). Brief research indicates that M&GNJR was never granted arms, and so their quartered symbol has to be described as a badge or a logo. It is highly unlikely that the College of Arms would allow another Coat of Arms to borrow so substantially from existing Coats of Arms. If anything can be produced to prove that M&GNJR was indeed granted Arms and this is it, then I will apologise and stuff myself with 'umble pie.

I have a M&GNJR badge painted on wood in a frame about a foot square. If I can get a photo of it which is clearer that the one in the article, then I will do a switch. Sweetalkinguy 23:56, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

To Sleaford
The link to Sleaford between Little Bytham and Toft Tunnel looks a little dubious to me. I think there must be confusion with the Earl of Ancaster's private railway, which branched off at Little Bytham to the south of the bridge over the East Coast Main Line and swung north, crossing below the M&GNJR with no interchange between them, crossing the Grimsthorpe Castle estate and terminating in Edenham. The site of the former station at Edenham is clearly visible on Google Maps at latitude = 52.7857, longitude = -0.4324 if you zoom in - the track bed is the line going to the south-west, which can be traced all the way back to Little Bytham. Guy (talk) 03:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

The System Map
It seems to be a hobby amongst some M&GN enthusiasts, or others, or simply vandals, to tinker with and otherwise alter the system map of the M&GN whenever they have a spare minute. The latest irrelevant addition was the Stoke Ferry branch. I realise that this page is not my property, but come on people! Some of us who have the knowledge once managed to make a substantially correct and readable diagram. Since then it has been altered to such an extent that I feel it should be wiped and begun again.Nigel Digby (talk) 19:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * This is a particularly difficult route to accurately display without the resulting map stretching to well over a page, as was the case with the 2007 version. It might be a start to define the boundaries of the map - perhaps starting from Peterborough and terminating at Yarmouth South Town? Certain lines could be left out, esp. the Poppyland branch, the Bittern Line and perhaps even Melton Constable to Cromer. Another facility which could help reduce the length, would be to include a "show" button on the map enabling a section of line to be hidden until clicked upon by the reader. Lamberhurst (talk) 22:18, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with Lamberhurst, it is a difficult system. I like the idea of "show" buttons. How does one go about them?Nigel Digby (talk) 11:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The show buttons are quite simple to implement - just add "-startCollapsible" after the BSx part of the line which you want to hide and then adding "}}" at the end of the last row to be hidden. A good example of the button in practice can be found on the West Coast Main Line Template. On the subject of the content of the system, I've been wanting for some time to create a separate article for the Cromer Beach - North Walsham Town section, perhaps this could be removed from the MGN map along with the Bittern Line remnants? Lamberhurst (talk) 16:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

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