Talk:Midlothian, Texas

Midlothian's motto
Only some one who knows little about Midlothian would stupidly demand/expect to cite a source about the city formerly referring to itself as the "steel and cement capital of Texas" and now refers to itself as "DFW's Southern Star". Simply look at the city's official website to see its current motto in big bold letters, and some of the photos from the older part of town on that website that show city signs with the old slogan. B 21:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The current motto " DFW's Southern Star" was adopted by the City Council over a year ago for the purpose of updating the old logo and identifying Midlothian as a growing community that wants to stand out as a City in the often ignored Southern Sector of the Metroplex. The new motto has absolutely no connection to the cement industry and any similarity to Southern Star Concrete is a coincidence. User:Sandbrg23 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * That's quite a coincidence given who is on the City Council. Gee, I wonder who came up with the "Southern Star" idea... B 07:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I suggest that you research the council agenda's for late 2005 and there you will find that a presentation was given by staff and a consultant with regard to a new motto/logo. At no point was the motto DFW's Southern Star ever questioned as being too similar to Southern Star Concrete, what you state in this entry about the "coincidence" is merely your opinion and not fact.

Environmental impact
"Everything else put out by industry and the state claiming to find no damage to human health relies on soil, air and water sampling to estimate exposure at "safe" or "unsafe" levels and works backwards to make that conclusion. It does not look at what the actual condition of human health is in the surrounding area."

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Response to above commment: A study done solely on the actual condition of human health is not always an accurate nor a scientific approach. This is due to the fact that many long-term or chronic health afflictions do not present in humans immediately. The exposure could have happened 20 years ago. Much is the same with smoking, the most common source of cancer. For example, someone who started smoking at the age of 15 will not get cancer immediately, but rather 40 to 50 years later. Also, exposure to a chemical has a different effect on different people depending on their genetic dispositions. Some populations groups are more sensitive than others, which again complicates using actual health conditions. Therefore, past exposures and genetics make looking at the local population an unsound method. Calculating risk from measured exposure levels is the best scietific approach available. 24193082 20:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that medical geography would be an appropriate scientific method to analyze the possible health effects of the toxic chemicals released by TXI, Holcim, Ashgrove, and Chapparal. I just looked up environmental complaints on TCEQ'S website, and TXI, Holcim, and Chapparal account for about 27% of the complaints for all of Ellis County. As far as any current reports' validity, just look at who is funding the study. Also, remember that the EPA gave TXI and Chapparal an award for helping to protect the climate. These industrial complexes burn toxic and hazardous waste to dry cement in their kilns. Several of the kiln are wet kiln that have little pollution control and have avoided regulation by being "grandfathered in". This means that Midlothian has the highest concentration of wet kilns in the country. You can go to the EPA'S toxic release inventory (TRI) Explorer and examine the grocery list of chemicals TXI is pumping out. All this info is available at TCEQ'S website, EPA's TRI Explorer, and www.downwindersatrisk.org 11:35, 9 June 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.120.202.106 (talk)

Four officers hurt in Texas shootout
Authorities negotiating with suspect to end standoff

Sunday, August 20, 2006; Posted: 7:30 p.m. EDT (23:30 GMT)

Police officers take cover behind an automobile. Image:

(CNN) -- Three police officers and a state trooper were shot Sunday in Midlothian, Texas, and authorities were in a standoff with a 25-year-old suspect, police said.

< http://cnn.org/2006/US/08/20/texas.shootout/index.html >.

Hopiakuta 23:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC) Bold text

Added reference to freeport tax exemption
I added a reference/link to the section on the freeport tax exemption. Here is the link: www.txi.com/real_estate/railport/railport.html Midlothian90210 01:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Speed trap is verified
Just noticed that someone has removed the entry regarding the traffic ticket quota in Midlothian. This is true. I checked and found a news story from WFAA-TV (via Google search). I will add it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Midlothian90210 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Not a speed trap, but newsworthy
I have restored the content titled "Ticket quota memo uncovered." I checked the link, and it is a factual representation of news coverage by one of the local TV stations. Just because we don't like the truth is no reason to attempt to stamp it out. :) Balance2214 22:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Pretty fast with the delete!
Hey friend (22:22, 12 October 2007 Corvus cornix Wikipedia is not a newspaper), pretty fast on the delete key! Took you about a minute, maybe? That's OK. Let's talk. Regarding your statement "Wikipedia is not a newspaper" -- the quota memo has moved beyond news and is now an event that is an important part of the city's story. So I'm not sure I understand your objection. Would it be more acceptable if I used a link that did not reference a news article? I do want to meet Wiki standards going forward, so any advice would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Balance2214 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Still no response?
Still no response to my request of Oct. 12 for additional information from Corvus cornix on why my addition (ticket quota memo) is not appropriate. Here is the official Wiki guidance on the proper use of newspaper stories:

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News items are generally considered notable (meriting an independent article) if they meet any of the following criteria:

The subject of the news item has become the subject of secondary documentation or analysis independent of news services. This includes being the subject of books, documentaries or non-trivial academic study (i.e. excluding non-scientific surveys), or incorporation in an important public debate. The subject of the news item has set, or has caused to set, a precedent in some way. This includes new laws being passed, novel interpretations of existing law, first tests of new law, notable "first of its kind" achievements, new or increased safety legislation, causing a notable change in societal behaviour or norms, etc. ...... News items that do not meet the above criteria, but which involve a notable subject should be included in the article about the notable subject, if it can be put in appropriate context there. ....

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The ticket quota memo has certainly become a part of an important public debate in the city, and ticket writing is no longer subject to quotas. Also, the memo involves a "notable subject," specifically the city of Midlothian, Texas. Unless someone raises an objection, I see no reason not to restore the ticket quota memo information; however, I don't want to get into an editing war. What do others think? Thanks in advance for any guidance or suggestions. Balance2214 20:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Be bold. I've added it back in. Dhalgren195 (talk) 02:02, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

And I've added it back again. Good argument in favor of the material is stated above. Dhalgren195 (talk) 19:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC

Wikipedia is not a newspaper, stop posting the "Ticket Controversy". Quit trying to put your personal issue in an encyclopedic entry. That's like if I was upset with the parking at the MISD Stadium and I created an entry about the lack of parking and cited newpaper articles and such. Or I posted an entry on the twister this past spring. Newsworthy, but a legitimate entry on wikipedia, I don't think so. Try and be a better steward of Midlothian's page and history next time.

The picture of Midlothian looks a little "ghost town-ish". Most of the time during the day, there will be cars parked in most of those spots. I was surprised to see the spots so bare. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregmid61 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)