Talk:Midnight, Texas

Breeda Wool
Can someone add Breeda Wool to the actors (guest?), i guess she was on for a few weeks? Could tell it was same actress as clerk on Mr. Mercedes but doesn't seem to be listed anywhere as being in cast of Midnight, TX. Just off the top of my head, thanks. Raucous Rollus (talk) 05:56, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Episode summaries
Per MOS:TVPLOT, the episode summaries are getting too long. They should be kept under 200 words or less. —  Wylie pedia  @ 20:37, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Masturbation
I caught one episode a month or two ago where, in a dream/fantasy sequence, one of the stars was masturbating (female, in bed, under the covers). I was wondering if this was noteworthy for broadcast TV (obviously not for cable).I was wondering if this is a first (for broadcast TV)? or first for Prime Time (Broadcast) TV? Good riddance, anyway.72.16.99.93 (talk) 23:34, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Cast list and character descriptions
I know WP:SPOILER but I think it is more important that the Cast list provides a brief introduction and overview of characters and that it should not mention any unnecessary plot points. Spoiler makes it clear that Wikipedia is not censored and that information should be included somewhere but conversely we don't need to reveal unnecessary details indiscriminately, and the best place for plot points it a Plot section or episode summary.

We seem to disagree though about what plot points are unnecessary. I don't think it is appropriate to list character deaths. I think character marriages can be argued for but relationship details are less interesting than actual character descriptions, and I don't think they particularly help readers. I think it would simply make the article better not to include those details in the Cast section. I fully support including character notes in the cast section and I think the episode summaries of most TV articles could stand to spoil/include more details than they do but there's no need to repeat plot details in the Cast section.

These are fairly trivial details and they're not plot twists ("Luke, I am your father!") or anything but as a matter of better writing I didn't think those details should be repeated in the cast list. -- 109.76.211.42 (talk) 13:54, 14 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Also MOS:TVCAST: "Try to avoid using the section as a repository for further "in-universe" information that belongs in the plot summary; instead, focus on real-world information on the characters and actors (this could include, but is not limited to, casting of the actor or how the character was created and developed over the course of the series). The key is to provide real-world context to the character through production information, without simply re-iterating entertainment websites such as IMDb." -- 109.76.211.42 (talk) 13:57, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The fact that Creek was killed is not a "minor plot point" – it establishes why she doesn't show up more in season #2, and is actually one of the main motivating factors for what Manfred does the rest of that season. Character deaths are often included in cast lists like this one – this is not unusual, and is why WP:SPOILER actually exists. Meanwhile the marriage of Olivia and Lem isn't a "one-off" – it was another major plot point of season #2. I agree that if they had gotten married in the series finale, it wouldn't have merited mentioning. But because it happens in the season #1 finale, and drives some of the plotlines in season #2, it is definitely relevant to mention. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:00, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:SPOILER means that yes information should be included somewhere, it doesn't mean that information should necessarily be in the intro (hello Kaiser Soze) or in this case the cast list. This information does not belong in the cast list because it is already in the episode summaries.
 * Aside from that the way it is mentioned is badly done. The text should first establish that they are a couple, girlfriend/boyfriend introducing them as they were at the start of season 1. Then it should separately say that they later get married. It is good writing structure to add details piece by piece, roughly in chronological order. Better structure makes it easier for readers to stop reading before learning too much. If you are going argue for details it would make sense to include more details, not just those ones. Since the cast list doesn't include all that much other information, so it feels very unbalanced, like undue weight is being given to the few things that are actually mentioned. It doesn't make sense to be so vague and say that Lemuire is "a vampire with a dark past" but to then in the very same sentence bluntly state that they get married later in the season. If you're going to include details then do include more details, instead of using one long run on sentence. It would be better then to include other useful background about Lemuire, from earlier in the season such as explaining that he is a former slave, or that he is not only a vampire but an unusual vampire that does not need to kill to feed, or even that the source of his unusual ability is Manfred's grandmother. (It isn't great either that the reference is at the end of sentence when it only sources fact that Kebbel plays Olivia and she is a hitwoman. Their relationship and later marriage should at the very least be in a separate sentence.) Removing the extra details was the fast was to improve the section, but there are other ways it could be improved, if you don't want to remove then I encourage you to add more and structure it better. -- 109.78.238.99 (talk) 17:14, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to clarifying the character summaries for Olivia and Lem. I do object to removing the fate of the character of Creek – it is a key detail that should not be removed, and is akin to mentioning the Reverend's leaving town. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:13, 15 February 2019 (UTC)