Talk:Midob language

Sound Values/ Phonology
In the article, "c" is represented as a voiceless palatal stop. It should be a "ɕ", a voiceless alveolo-palatal fricative. The "ɟ" (voiced palatal plosive) should be interpreted as a "ʓ", a voiced postalveolar fricative. Source: http://starling.rinet.ru/new100/nub.pdf A.Tamar Chabadi (talk) 19:38, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No, it's actually a palatal stop. You can hear it in the recording here. The error might have come from Werner's consonant table, which is misleading, and that caused Starostin (your link) to misinterpret it. Thelwall says: "c,j vary between pure palatal plosives and affricated palatal plosives". There are other more recent (but unfortunately still unpublished) studies in support of this. --Gruenman (talk) 16:12, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The conventions of Starostin you can actually find here. It says that this is meant to be an affricate (deviating from IPA).--Gruenman (talk) 13:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)