Talk:Mie Nielsen

Proposed move
A week ago this article was moved from Mie Nielsen to Mie Østergaard Nielsen even though the former seems to be the common name in the English media, see WP:COMMONNAME. Therefore, I propose to move it back. Gap9551 (talk) 15:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Disagree. The official results have her as "NIELSEN Mie Oe", which albeit slightly incorrect (should be OE NIELSEN Mie, if transcribed, which is a scandal that it is still being done in 2016, but that is another discussion), has at least the initial of Østergaard spelled out. Her facebook page is "Mie Østergaard Nielsen", and most sources I find have her either as "Mie Østergaard Nielsen" or "Mie Ø. Nielsen". --Marbe166 (talk) 18:54, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Facebook is a primary source and WP:COMMONNAME mentions independent sources. Also, e.g. her Twitter has just Mie Nielsen. FINA, probably the authority in swimming, has her as Mie Nielsen on her profile. Same for Olympic.org. The prominent English swimming media do the same: Swimswam, Swimming World, Swimvortex. Same for major news media in English-speaking countries, Sidney Morning Herald, BBC, New York Times. Which English (secondary) sources consistently use Mie Østergaard Nielsen? I don't see many uses of her full name, apart from the London 2016 site you gave, sports reference and a sponsor bio. Gap9551 (talk) 20:07, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The LEN (European Aquatics Federation) result database and profile has her as "Nielsen Mie Oe", so even the official federations differ. The Danish Wikipedia has her as "Mie Ø. Nielsen" and other language versions have her as any of the three. Hence I see no strong reason to move back, as long as the redirects from both Mie Nielsen and Mie Ø. Nielsen work properly, which they do. (a smaller argument would be that there apparently, according to the German Wikipedia is a Danish Badminton player born 1982 called Mie Nielsen, but she has no German and no Danish wiki article.) --Marbe166 (talk) 22:45, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * How her name is spelled in other languages is not relevant for the purpose of this article, however. Neither how names of other people with the same or similar name are spelled. We should follow policy here. You didn't comment on the guideline I mentioned (in combination with the examples from English sources) or referred to possible other relevant guidelines. I'm aware that some databases use "OE." or similar, and for good reason as they want to avoid ambiguity in identity, but that doesn't mean that this is the common use. Gap9551 (talk) 23:33, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 1 June 2016

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: moved. In case of RM discussions where there is no consensus to apply a new name to an article, the article is moved back to its original stable title. SST flyer  05:35, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Mie Østergaard Nielsen → Mie Nielsen – A week ago this article was moved from Mie Nielsen to Mie Østergaard Nielsen even though the former seems to be the common name in the English media, see WP:COMMONNAME. Therefore, I propose to move it back. Gap9551 (talk) 15:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Disagree. The official results have her as "NIELSEN Mie Oe", which albeit slightly incorrect (should be OE NIELSEN Mie, if transcribed, which is a scandal that it is still being done in 2016, but that is another discussion), has at least the initial of Østergaard spelled out. Her facebook page is "Mie Østergaard Nielsen", and most sources I find have her either as "Mie Østergaard Nielsen" or "Mie Ø. Nielsen". --Marbe166 (talk) 18:54, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Facebook is a primary source and WP:COMMONNAME mentions independent sources. Also, e.g. her Twitter has just Mie Nielsen. FINA, probably the authority in swimming, has her as Mie Nielsen on her profile. Same for Olympic.org. The prominent English swimming media do the same: Swimswam, Swimming World, Swimvortex. Same for major news media in English-speaking countries, Sidney Morning Herald, BBC, New York Times. Which English (secondary) sources consistently use Mie Østergaard Nielsen? I don't see many uses of her full name, apart from the London 2016 site you gave, sports reference and a sponsor bio. Gap9551 (talk) 20:07, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The LEN (European Aquatics Federation) result database and profile has her as "Nielsen Mie Oe", so even the official federations differ. The Danish Wikipedia has her as "Mie Ø. Nielsen" and other language versions have her as any of the three. Hence I see no strong reason to move back, as long as the redirects from both Mie Nielsen and Mie Ø. Nielsen work properly, which they do. (a smaller argument would be that there apparently, according to the German Wikipedia is a Danish Badminton player born 1982 called Mie Nielsen, but she has no German and no Danish wiki article.) --Marbe166 (talk) 22:45, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * How her name is spelled in other languages is not relevant for the purpose of this article, however. Neither how names of other people with the same or similar name are spelled. We should follow policy here. You didn't comment on the guideline I mentioned (in combination with the examples from English sources) or referred to possible other relevant guidelines. I'm aware that some databases use "OE." or similar, and for good reason as they want to avoid ambiguity in identity, but that doesn't mean that this is the common use. Gap9551 (talk) 23:33, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.