Talk:Might Guy

Maito Gai vs. Might Guy
someone explain to me how come the name changes from "maito gai" to "might guy" then back again over and over all the time - kaizen@june2


 * It doesn't. When an anonymous person tries to change it, he is reverted. WhisperToMe 16:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Need citation proof to accept "Might Guy". Nothing personal but right now it looks more like a joke name than something official. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nauto (talk • contribs) 15:53, 23 June 2006  (UTC)


 * IMDb lists him as Gai Maito for the English translation of the anime, I don't know what the English translation of the manga uses, but my guess would be Maito Gai as the names are not westernized in the manga. Jay32183 17:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * According to WhisperToMe, the recent chapters of the English Naruto manga have used "Might Guy" as opposed to "Maito Gai". The Magnificent, Fantastic, Splendiferous Gegiford 03:47, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth the trading card game also uses Might Guy. [].  And Geg, I think your sig is a bit too splendiferous.  -- Pedantic79(talk) 05:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Also name Maito Gai (マイト・ガイ) is spelt out in katakana. Foreign names are almost always spelt out in katakana, while Japanese names very rarely.  For the fan-translators going from English to katakana to English you get engrish out of it... Might Guy in engrish would be Maito Gai.   -- Pedantic79(talk) 05:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Romaji --Cresh 18:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Nothing can ever be too splendiferous. The Magnificent, Fantastic, Splendiferous Gegiford 17:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * If The Splendiferous Adventures of Filliam H. Muffman are any indication... – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 20:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Damn, I must have missed that episode of the Colbert Report. The Magnificent, Fantastic, Splendiferous Gegiford 20:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I've abandoned all hope for 'Maito Gai' being the standard. But I still need to vent:  "Might Guy" is uber-lame, and the gai who decided to use that in the data books deserves a most painful sennen goroshi. -- Byakuren 08:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Whoever keeps changing Might Guy to Maito Gai, please knock it off. His official, canonical name is given as Might Guy in both the US and Japan; nothing you can say or do will change it back to Gai. Please save us all a headache and stop it. I don't want to see this page locked down just because someone can't come to grips with his name not being in romaji and changing it EVERY SINGLE DAY to satiate themselves. To reiterate: The name is Might Guy. M-I-G-H-T G-U-Y.  Got it memorized? --Djseifer 18:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * In Japanese, there is no way for a word to end in a "t" sound so that is where we get "Maito" from Gai's name, just like "Matt" becomes "Matto"- aengusnokitsune —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aengusnokitsune (talk • contribs).


 * You seem to be confused. The actual transliteration of his name is indeed "Maito Gai" (マイト・ガイ), which is how "Might Guy" would be pronounced in Japanese. --Pentasyllabic 14:35, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed in Naruto Ultimate ninja his name is said / Written as "Mite Gai" not "Might Guy". along with that every other Character has their Original Japanese / Kanji pronunciations none of any one elses names have been put up as there English spellings. 24.215.171.40 21:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

My question is why do you change his name to Might Guy but not change Kakashi, Naruto, etc? It's just like Kimahri from FFX, in English it means Christopher, but do you ever call him that? NO!!KiriYukimuraKiriYukimura6/23/07
 * If you had read the rest of this page, you would've found out that it's spelled Might Guy in Japan, too. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 20:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Guy's jutsu
Back to seriousness. There's something I'm confused on. Is Guy like Lee in that he can't use nin/genjutsu, or does he simply not choose to? I know he summoned that turtle once, but I'm not clear on whether or one such as Lee could do that with a scroll regardless of the handicap?


 * I think he can use jutsu... Though I'm not sure. He probably can, but just chooses not to. The Magnificent, Fantastic, Splendiferous Gegiford 20:50, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Does that mean a summoning does not count as a justsu? because in the thing where jiraiya taught naruto to summon a member of the gama family, Naruto had to use the kyubi's chakra to summon (i think gamabunta) the frog boss. But is Lee's downfall that he can't control his chakra well enough to use gen or nunjustsu, or that he cant do anything with charkra at all? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.138.227.4 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Lee is capable of using chakra for basic things (tree-climbing, water-walking, etc), but can't use any ninjutsu or genjutsu. It's likely a matter of focus. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 18:36, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


 * From the databooks. Rock has a ninjutsu and genjustu score of 0, while Guy has a ninjutsu and genjustu score of 3.  – Pedantic79(talk) 16:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * How do you know Lee can water walk or climb trees with his feet? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dragonball1986 (talk • contribs).


 * He can be seen walking on water during Team Guy's battle with Kisame, and if he can walk on water it stands to reason he can climb trees. ~SnapperTo 21:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Lee was stated to be incapable of moulding chakra throughout his body, so if he can concentrate it into his feet, why not the rest? I thought walking on water was one of the harder feats to accomplish, since naruto had such trouble with it?   I could be mistaken, though.


 * That's the thing. Tree-climbing and Water walking aren't chakra-moulding, they're chakra releasing exersizes. It's just a release of energy instead of using Hand Seals to radically transform it. 151.151.21.105 19:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I just read volume 10, and during the Lee vs Gaara fight Guy states that Lee cannot do anything but taijutsu --71.178.179.141 01:12, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * What does that have to do with anything? Opening gates is also technically a form of chakra releasing.  In any case, this is not a forum, so this discussion ends here.  Even if this is somehow remotely relevant, at least take it to Lee's page and not Guy's. -- Seraphchoir 17:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Gai has undeveloped gen and nin chakra; my guess is he learned just enough to pass. He certainly has no abilities; creature summoning (not weapon summoning) needs chakra, but not much chakra; Naruto only needs fox chakra because Gamabunta does not want to be summoned. Since the turtle seems to have a close bind with Gai, I should think he needs nearly nothing for him to come out. And just for the record, Lee uses his taijustu skills to run along vertical surfaces, not chakra. I should think this fairly obvious.

gais alternate anti-sharingan technique
here are links to screenshot and manga panel where gai alludes to an alternative way of dealing with sharingan besides just focusing on the feet. unfortunately, he had no time to teach it to asuma and kurenai, as they had itachi to deal with.

anime: http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d164/kaizenyorii/vlcsnap-648824.png

manga: http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d164/kaizenyorii/Naruto143-14.png

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kaizenyorii (talk • contribs) 08:42, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Page move?
Even though its a name in katakana and that of a fictional character, its a japanese characters name and as such, shouldn't we play it out as such? The japanese and worldwide fan whom recieved the series via fansubs and scantalations know him as Gai, thusly making the number far more Gai than Guy as I'm aware. I wont change it this moment, considering it will only make for a wiki-war of changes. But I say we call to a vote, as I think Maito Gai is far more appropriate as I had to question if I was even on the right wiki page, seeing "Might Guy" in said of Maito Gai. 07:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Midusunknown (talk • contribs) 07:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Factually speaking, it's Might Guy. Since this is Wikipedia, we report the facts. This isn't something that votes do away with. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 14:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I know 'factually' its Might(y) Guy, but i would prefer Maito Gai or just Gai Sensei (sorry if i offend some how but it's just an opinion) --Dyna Dude 21:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Honestly a debate like this is fairly pointless. Say Maito Gai outloud. You get Might Guy with a Japanese accent. And if official sources have stated that the intended name was in fact Might Guy, then that means the other spelling is basically just how it fits with another languages phonetics. Sorry to cross series' here, but that sounds to me like going to Dragon Ball articles and pushing for Pikkoro and Bejita (while the former is named for the instrument and and the latter is a pun on the English word vegetable). It's one thing if it's a Japanese name that's "changed," but another if it's an English name that had the spelling adapted for Japanese. When using English, it's perfectly acceptable to use English spellings of those words. Onikage725


 * As a Maito Gai preferer (yeah, i know that's not a word) I have to say I agree with the pro-"Might Guy" arguments.  Not that I'll ever use it other than to bash it, but still... -- Byakuren 08:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * There really isn't much point to this argument, as stated above. I for one use "Maito Gai", because it is what I am used to and not canonly incorrect by pronounciation terms.  However, in text, it has been stated to be Might Guy.  It's not that big of a deal or change.  I also spell Hyuga as "Hyuuga", when it's canon text is not that way.  People just need to deal with the canon text and go on their merry little way.

How come they didn't switch the name?
All the names were switched to Western order for the English anime except for Gai's and Lee's...was there any particular reason?


 * Something about them being foreign or non-real names. Scroll up. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 20:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, sorry, must've missed that. ^^;;;  I just think that's kinda weird...my friends got confused and started called them 'Might' and 'Rock'.  ;-;

GROSS Violation of NPOV
C'mon, guys. This opening paragraph isn't even remotely close to NPOV:

"Maito Gai is a fictional character in the anime and manga series Naruto. Although he is almost exclusively referred to as Maito Gai by the English Naruto fan base ( which is CORRECT ), the crappy ENGLISH second official data book (Hiden: Tō no Sho) states GAI's name as Might Guy because they are retarded . This is in fact untrue, because as indicated in the official, Japanese anime, which is also uncut and pure, it is stated as MAITO GAI. The English version of the anime and manga also uses Might Guy, because they have their heads wedged FAR too far up their patoosies ."

--Riggermantis 08:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It's just someone vandalizing the page. They've been warned. NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 11:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Page lock?
This page is getting vandalized and fixed to the point that it feels like it's changing every hour, and it is always switching the spelling of the name from Might Guy to Maito Gai and back. It's really starting to become annoying. Since many of the edits are coming from anonymous IPs, is it possible to partially lock the page so that anons can't make edits? At least until they get the point and stop trying to change the name. The ones who have usernames can at least be dealt with via temp bans and such. --Djseifer 20:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll put in a request for semi-protection at WP:RfP. --NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 21:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * ...and it's been rejected. I guess it's only when it becomes an hourly occurance that they'll consider protection. --NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 21:45, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Despite Stephen Colbert's belief that popular opinion determines fact here, we don't kowtow to the whims of those incapable of reading the first two sentences. It's Might Guy. Every piece of official Naruto media confirms this fact. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 03:42, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Part 2 picture
Does anyone else think that the picture for part 2 is a bad choice the image should be one of just him or him and his team.Kaji of the Flame 03:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The picture is alright, but yeah. Perhaps something moreso just showing Guy.  Not a big deal, though.  A lot of this article seems to have boring elitism in it.  The constant bickering amongst fans as to what Gai/Guy's real name is is just lame and nerdy.  Also, a lot of it can spark lame fanboy debate.  Guy could not keep up with training a thirteen year old Lee for comical reasons, and yet he has the stamina to open 6 gates/the 6th gate after running for three days, use a high-powered jutsu, fight someone with his exact abilities, then run back to Konoha with Kakashi on his back.

Secondly, isn't it still unknown whether or not Guy opened 6 gates in succession or only the 6th gate? Either way, it was either an amazing display of Mastery of the Gates and his own chakra, or an amazing display of stamina (since he was not tired afterwards, when the Gates are known to cause immense pain). Also, while it definitely should be noted that Itachi has warned not to underestimate Guy twice, the mentioning of Itachi narrowing his eyes at Guy could make a lot of Itachi fanboys call the wahhmbulance.

A major problem on Wikipedia concerning the information on the Naruto characters seems to be that while the jutsu/fighting style content is abundant, content on someone's actual personalities, relationships, and personal status is not. People will mention little things like a comical scene of Guy, at 26 years old, talking about his youth powers fading, and......well, Tenten's buns. And her name resemblance to a panda's name.

If you're going to mention tiny irrelavent scenes and tidbits, why not mention them all?

Opened Gate/s
This is in reference to a line I read in Rock Lee's page. It said Guy can open at least six of the gates, as shown during his fight against a clone of Kisame Hoshigaki and I'm not sure if I understood it correctly. Does this mean Guy opened all six gates against Kisame's body double or did he just opened the sixth gate alone? On the manga, I read he just opened the sixth gate alone. --Beef noodles 18:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It should be all six seeing as the effects of the third gate were shown. The talk pages are about the articles, not random fan chat. Nemu 18:49, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, isn't my question about a certain article? I just wanted to make sure that what was written on the article is correct. I posted it here on this page since the inquiry is about this character who apparently has his own wikipage. I'll read that chapter again to make sure but from what I recall, all he said was "I have no choice... Open sixth gate!!!" something like that. It doesn't seem right that he actually had to open all six gates to fight an opponent using only 30% of his abilities. It's possible that he just wanted to finish the fight right away to save his team but shouldn't he be at least unable to move after the effects of the technique (opening the other gates) wear off? Guy didn't show any extreme sign of fatigue after that fight. --Beef noodles 20:19, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * From what I've seen regarding the gates (note: Kakashi also opened one, I think up to 2nd when rock climbing and about to fall) they are opened successively. They seem to become more dangerous the further you go, so no one would open a larger gate without opening the lower ones first. Tyciol 12:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

But Gai is a few minutes later fighting his own clone isn't he? He doesn't show fatigue or anything. A person might recover from opening one gate within a few minutes, as Lee did while fighting Gaara, but six? Seems unlikely. Could the Sixth gate be a prerequisite to Morning Peacock by itself?


 * It's either Gai/Guy opened the sixth gate on it's own, showing intense mastery of the gates(impressive) against a VERY powerful, 30% Kisame(impressive on Kisame's end)....or that Gai/Guy opened six gates, performed a high-powered jutsu after running for three days, showed no fatigue afterwards and fought his clone...then...ran back to Konoha with Kakashi on his back. This..would make him a stamina beast.  So either way, it's all good.

Kage Bunshin?
This article mentions that in the filler Guy uses Kage Bunshin. My memory is a bit stale, can someone tell me which storyline that was, possibly the episode? Tyciol 12:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * That wasn't Guy that was Naruto disquised as him to fool Lee.--Emokid200618 17:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Relavence of half the crap?
Seeing as how this page is constantly being edited, I'd like to know how half of it is relavent and not just something to instigate lame fanboy discussion. While one can mention Itachi's warning and high regards to Guy and not underestimating him, mentioning a narrowing of his eyes is taking things a bit out of context, as we don't really know if Itachi was narrowing his eyes at Guy in general, or the fact that they were being interrupted.

Also it is not known yet whether or not Guy opened the sixth gate only, or opened six gates in succession.

"When this happens, a beach at sunset, complete with crashing waves, usually appears behind them."

Didn't this only happen once when Guy hugged Lee? Yep, only during their introduction. With this added on, including a scene of a 26-27 year old Guy comically whining and musing sadly of his youth fading, and extra mentions of how OMGDISTURBED!11 all of the kids were at Kakashi on Guy's back....half of this stuff seems irrelavent to Guy's role in the manga. You might as well add everything comical he ever does.

Half of the translations of that entire scene had the children completely overreacting, and Neji shouting "Hell no!" to Lee's offer, when the original translation has Neji stating "Absolutely not." to Lee's offer, with the kids having a much more tamed and comical reaction to Guy and Kakashi. ( http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0VABbDgYaTGWTuzUkykHQz7jPAD65jRI6ffVhn6a*8!j8w4rJzAV67BfWhApC5LkUtz7* BxoU2Wcbw!dlrlSUs83fzvGfabpcoodvh3Cr4ezL9iBhc*ZVAhNS6Marfyei/chapter281_13.png?dc=4675585850728005127 )

( http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0VAC7DgcakmWTuzUkykHQz! HtIwnvOcqcnmmIurRSeeYDAPEFIjVugrUEwrJZt6htZ9xnfEOSWNax6YdiGJ2X5Yq3oDffYXThP 4qd8zkm33ol56R12N1SXOBgj6aKt!eJ/chapter281_14.png?dc=4675585850731288391 ) [ copy/paste the URLs if you'd like to see these translations, and thus gay fantalk will ensue on whether or not a hyuuga went out of character and said 'hell no' to something ]

Also, I feel like crying about little things that don't matter. So.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2851354&postcount=291 ^ This and many other translations from the second character databook say that Guy's favourite phrase is "the Flower of our Youth". It would also help to explain that hitting the mitt is punching a punching bag, or a term for boxing.


 * To try and address your points:
 * Itachi seems to narrow his eyes a lot, so saying that he does so at Guy probably means very little. However, when Guy comments that he had already taken into consideration how to fight Itachi, Itachi immediately gets his own panel where his eyes seem to be slightly narrower than usual, so it seems that this comment at least provoked a response.
 * The article doesn't dismiss the fact that he opened earlier gates; it merely states that he opened the sixth gate to using the Morning Peacock.
 * I can only recall seeing a sunset in a video game, so I don't know how often it has actually happened in the actual series (more specifically, the anime, as I don't remember seeing that in the manga).
 * The things you listed are about the extent of Guy's hilarity, though the reason they're mentioned is to illustrate that Guy is more "zany" than most of the other characters.
 * I fail to see how the differing translations of the piggyback scene applies to this article, or at least how what you pointed out applies to the article, as your links don't work.
 * Don't know about his favorite phrase, though I agree that the mitt thing could use a clarification.
 * So, yeah. What? I have no idea if you were trying to make a point or if you were just mentioning things about the article. ~SnapperTo 06:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Request
Does anyone have a scan of the databook page with Guy's name written in English? The Splendiferous Gegiford 16:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I found one. But for future reference: The Splendiferous Gegiford 17:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

6th gate picture
their should be a 6th gate picture
 * duh
 * 1) Please post your messages using proper spelling and grammar, or at least as close to it as you can get. Wikipedia's discussion pages are not like threads of a typical message board, and such posting etiquite is barely acceptable on those message boards to begin with.
 * 2) Please sign your posts with four "~"s. It makes it easier to see how old or recent your message was, so as to not waste time responding to year-old messages.
 * 3) The image that you requested would not better the article in any way. Therefore, it's not worth the effort to find that image or upload it, nor is it worth putting on the page.
 * You Can&#39;t See Me! 06:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * If you (the unsigned poster) really want a picture up that badly, it would be more appropriate here. -- Seraphchoir 17:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Wrong Translation
""Konoha's Prideful Green Beast" (木ノ葉の気高き碧い猛獣, Konoha no Kedakai Aoi Mōjū?)." This translation is wrong... someone should check it, "Aoi" = blue...

Mykas0 21:30, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, "aoi" = blue, pale, green, unripe, inexperienced. I think it's fair to assume that he is not "Konoha's Prideful Inexperienced/Pale/Unripe Beast", which leaves blue or green. Considering his jumpsuit, and that the translators are using the original japanese version and not the romanized version, green is the correct translation in this particular case 85.228.72.96 20:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Categories on redirects
I don't understand why Sess won't explain the justification for their additions of categories to redirects. I have read the lengthy guideline quoted but I can see no need for this specific redirect, can anyone else? Better still would Sess just tell me specifically which bits of the guideline support you and I will be happy ... it's not difficult and it would be considered common courtesy by most people. Abtract (talk) 19:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)