Talk:Mighty the Armadillo

Picture
ive got a really got a really good picture of mighty. its a 3D one but i dunno how to upload pictures on this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.33.13.30 (talk • contribs)
 * You, first need to get an account, then on any page, there is a link under the search bar saying "Upload File". and VIOLA. When you upload it, tell me and I'll put it up in the article. UnDeRsCoRe 23:23, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

ive uploaded the picture er now what

Send me the link of the image, I'll do it. UnDeRsCoRe 21:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MIGHTY_the_armadillo_by_Chris_Supernerd.jpg

Comics
Whether it gets merged or not, if we're adding info on his Archie personality, it needs info on his STC personality, too. Hence, I've added that. --L T Dangerous 02:10, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Don't delete relationships from the Archie Comics
As a character that doesn't have separate articles for different incarnations, all relationships pertaining to this character have a place in this article. Denjo

Fuse it
Put it under Mighty the Armadillo in Chaotix. I'll probably add things on Mighty-the-game.

I think it should be fused, mighty shouldn't be discriminated from other choatix members for no reason.You,re Right it shoud be fused with the Chaotix article and Chaotix should go to the Hero section like Mighty

Against it

 * I'm against the merging of these articles. Mighty has quite a bit more history to himself than most of the other Chaotix characters. It's probably too much to put in the Chaotix article. --Steerpike 00:45, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

OK 3 merge supportes against 1 stay the same supporters We win

I see 4 against merging (Steerspike, JanusZeal, Jenny Tablina, Ip address 71.xx) and possibly 3 (all unassigned) users for merging it. Add in me and it's 5 to 3 for keeping it here. --208.27.127.30, April 18th, 2007.
 * User:TTN is obviously against it. I myself can go either way. --Libertyernie2 19:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * This isn't a vote. People have provided nothing that isn't covered by WP:ATA. It's just a bunch of fans wanting a page of a very obscure character to be kept (why Mighty out of all of them is beyond me). Just give it up. Nemu 19:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

People like you are the reason I can never find what I'm looking for on Wikipedia and have to go elsewhere. Way to ruin the system.
 * This isn't a fan site. What you call information is usually called cruft or just unneeded. I suggest you try Wikia for fan geared information. Nemu 18:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep separate and elaborate more
I would suggest against merging it. Mighty existed before Chaotix and is associated to the Sonic Universe by those other means. Instead, the info from Chaotix should be displayed here, with a link to this article from Chaotix. --JanusZeal

Re: Article Merge
Should Mighty really be added into the Chaotix article considering he doesnt seem to be considered part of the team by Sega anymore? It might confuse users who are only aware of the recent Chaotix as seen in Heroes, Shadow and Sonic X. --Jenny Tablina 13:09 January 26 2006


 * Keep The article has enough information. 71.104.177.39 07:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

How is Mighty an anit-hero? The chart describes him as that...

It used to have neutral in it. 71.104.185.157 18:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

References and notes
References and notes needed around things, such as, "Contrary to popular belief," "found in several hacks," etc. And perhaps some more external links. I added some! --71.104.185.157 18:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I added a bunch, now! --71.104.185.157 05:00, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Mighty is intresting who wrote that he wasn,t in the article yesterday it said that he was hard to modify and replaced with vector that,s why i planed a Heroes 2 lot of people stole my idea about it i devolped it june 2004 so don,t steal it i made a return of Mighty with Team Underground.Speed is Manic from Sonic Under ground. Power is Mighty. and Flight is E-102 Gamma from Sonic Adventure(with his Jet Booster). What's this guy talking about?Axe995 22:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea. Roxyr 22:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Game picture
Shouldn't we have a game picture of mighty as he is officially described (either in segasonic or knuckles chaotix).

You should put ray the squirl on mighty.

Sonic Channel
Should it be mentioned that Mighty appeared in the character poll on the Sonic Channel Website? Grandmastergalvatron 23:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, where does it list Mighty's age as being 16? —Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)

New Picture
The new picture on the Mighty page - is it fanart or official? That's all I'd like to know. Libertyernie2 01:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

It's official art from what I could make out. If a Portuguese speaker could check out this site- http://sonictotal.vilabol.uol.com.br/index.htm and verify it as official or non-official for me, I'd be eternally grateful. -- Danish Ranger

"Character Rights" Rumor
Please. Please. PLEASE. Let's get rid of the "Mighty no longer appears in games is because his creator left SEGA and took the rights to use the character with him[2];" statement. Why?


 * Contrary to popular belief, the most likely designer of Mighty the Armadillo is not Naoto Ohshima, but in fact Manabu Kusunoki, who is the only person listed both as a designer in SegaSonic the Hedgehog and Knuckles' Chaotix.
 * Manabu Kusunoki was with Sonic Team at least until Sonic Adventure, where he/she is credited; Kusunoki appear to be one of the developers who split for Artoon.
 * It is against BASIC BUSINESS PRINCIPLES to not have a clause, especially in creative environments such as video game developement, to say that content created on the clock is the property of the corporation, not the individual. Chaos would ensue if that was the case.
 * For a comparable example, Yasushi Yamaguchi, well-documented as the designer of Tails, left Sega completely in 1995; however, the Tails character is in use to this day.

I'm sorry to get so detailed, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves of the fandom. - ScarredSun 19:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree completely. Eliminate fandom when possible. Lengis 21:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Me too. --Libertyernie2 00:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Cut from Sonic Heroes
Shouldn't there be a bit stating what may be obvious, that Mighty could have been "removed" so the Chaotix could fit into the three person party arrangement of Sonic Heroes? It always seemed obvious that was what happened as soon as he disappeared.Philtrauferson 00:29, 21 October 2006

I agree. Oneupthextraman 18:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Someone needs to add that it's obvious he was removed because: SEGA and Sonic Team only needed three characters, Fly, Speed, and Power. They were probably lost for characters, so they used the old chaotix characters. The team had four charcaters however, so they had to 'fire' an unimportant/unecessary character. They had the roles they needed from Charmy, Vector, and Espio. Mighty was removed. I'm not doing it, it'll turn out wrong, and won't fit in there. Elemento 18:09, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

They should used him for Power, not Vector! Sega are idiots, his name's ficken Mighty. Claycrow 18:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Prototype
It has been comfirmed in issue #211 of Nintendo Power that an Armadillo was suggested as a main character, so Mighty the Armadillo is indeed a prototype for Sonic. Mariofan 21:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Age
Hey, I've just figured out how to "discuss". Anyway, everyday, I check out the Sonic characters' pages, and everytime I'm on Mighty's, I always wonder how you guys know his age. I thought that hardly anything was known about him.71.209.183.185 23:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)anon
 * I would suppose it's in the Knuckles' Chaotix manual. --Libertyernie2 01:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Official and non-official
The comics are NOT official. Maybe someone could make one big article for the non-official comic stuff.

Bring back or not
Here's a new place to discuss the proposed merge to Chaotix, since there doesn't seem to be a clear consensus in either direction anywhere else. I personally think it should be merged, but the current article should be kept intact until a consensus has been reached. --Libertyernie2 19:46, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There was a decision to merge all minor characters on the minor character talk page; there is no need for this. The only people that object are random fans who can't muster up anything besides arguments covered by WP:ATA. The only reason the page is up is because the anon will just continue to revert it. Even if there is another consensus, he'll just claim it isn't a true consensus or something. Nemu 19:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Now the discussion is relevant. The page was merged, and now someone would like to bring it back. That is fine. I have added a split tag, and posted a message on the Chaotix talk page. Nemu 20:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The page will be a redirect until the discussion is over. --Libertyernie2 20:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. The discussion on the other characters page was not a true consensus in my opinion, as Mighty was only mentioned with a lot of other characters and in passing. --Libertyernie2 17:28, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Mighty is one of the oldest characters in the entire franchise, being the prototype for Sonic the Hedgehog. Even if you go by his first actual appearance he still appears before even Knuckles the Echidna. He's been playable in two complete games (neither of them being any sort of racing game or party game) in addition to making a cameo in another and having a role in both the major Sonic comics (and the Knuckles spin-off and various miniseries). I am personally of the opinion that any playable Sonic character that has appeared in multiple games with at least one of them being a platformer (so that doesn't include people like Ray, Lumina, Tails Doll, etc.) should have their own profile page. However, that is far more debateable and I don't want to get into all that. Mighty however definately has enough points of interests to maintain his own page. Especially when one factors in that he has recently been gaining popularity due to his ommission (ie. getting a surge of popularity which caused several false rumors about cut material when Sonic Heroes came out). There's also the misconceptions about his character (such as him having super strength, because of the comics) which his page used to clarify.

Additionally, my major beef here aside from the redirect based on a discussion located entirely elsewhere is that there has been no effort to expand Mighty's tiny section on the new page by those who wish to redirect him, so much of the information goes away. Plus the fact that he really would probably belong on the Other Characters page instead of the Chaotix page as outside of the comics he seems to not be affiliated with the team any longer. Furthermore, I just don't see the point in needlessly cramming a page with a tiny bit of information about a lot of characters, when the characters could support their own (fleshed out) page and not crowd the other one. I mean, you don't see people trying to redirect Bloodwynd, Rocket Red, and Ice all under a "Justice League" page just because they don't have tons and tons of information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.27.127.30 (talk • contribs)


 * His importance to the fans means nothing; his roles are minimal, and they don't need much explanation. Most of the information on the page was pure fluff, not encyclopedic information. He really doesn't need more than two paragraphs to explain that he exists and what he is like. There isn't much past that. You are free to move him to the others page if you would like. Nemu 22:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Since he's made appearances when the Chaotix have been absent, I'd agree with moving him to the Others page. --Danish Ranger 17:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I second that. Also, he shouldn't have his own page unless Espio, Charmy and Vector do - they have more info to convey. (Thanks to all of you for being civil here. It's a far cry from the Missingno. discussions.) --Libertyernie2 22:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Moving him to other characters page now. --Libertyernie2 17:28, 9 May 2007 (UTC)