Talk:Mike Machat

Hello U.S. Air Force Master Sergeant Schazad -
Hello U.S. Air Force Master Sergeant Schazad - thank you for your advice. I apologize I have no idea how to really use Wiki and provide updates. I am seriously trying to get a Wiki Editor take control and update one of your National Treasure Artists Profile to be more comprehensive and correct. kind regards Mike Pemberton Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 00:06, 6 September 2020 (UTC)Mike Machat's


 * , I took the liberty of copying over your edit suggestions from the other board. Schazjmd   (talk)  00:28, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello U.S. Air Force Master Sergeant Schazjmd I apologize I misspelled your name If you are able to garner some assistance to introducing accuracy and content to the Machat article I would appreciate it The U.S, Artist to the U.S. Air Force Mr. Keith Ferris has an accurate article for his associations and work as an example kind regards Michael Pemberton Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 08:15, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'll keep an eye on the article. I'll take a look at the specific edit requests when I can get to it, but it won't be immediately, sorry. (Also, you can just use "Schazjmd" to address me) Schazjmd   (talk)  15:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank Sir - I really appreciate it. Finally I have researched a Bibliography of Mike Machat Murals [which has an equivalent section in Keith Ferris] and also of the key Art pieces signed by the important U.S. Air Force Pilots who are referenced in Wikipedia. One example "Cuban Sightseeing Tour" [RF-101] Signed Capt.Clyde East; Mike Machat - Capt. East obtained the photos used by President John F Kennedy from over Cuba on which he based some of his decisions related to the Cuban Missile crisis - My question should I add those reference additions into my original Mike Machat section overview below OR as a separate section when they are ready please? Kind regards Mike P Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 17:19, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello Schazjmd

I have updated Machat with further Historic Information -

U.S.Air Force and U.S. Navy Pilots - Historic Events in Aviation History depicted in Machat's Art and Murals by Machat

Is there a way I can send a few lines of private information to you?

kind regards Mike Pemberton Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 20:41, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , if you go to my user page, there's an Email this user option in the left navigation bar. Schazjmd   (talk)  20:56, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Edit requests
(Making this on behalf of by copying their post from the BLP noticeboard) This Mike Machat biography segment contains some errors and has a good number of omissions - here are my suggested changes - I realise I am not a professional editor - direct assistance would be greatly appreciated:

My suggested deletions are pre marked by //

My suggested inclusions are marked by **


 * My Sources are:

Airline Ratings Author Mike Machat - https://www.airlineratings.com/author/mike-machat/

AirWingMedia - https://airwingmedia.com/articles/2012/mike-machat-source-aviation-art-information/ AirWingMedia Edwards Mural - https://airwingmedia.com/pilots/2020/edwards-mural-by-mike-machat/ AirWingMedia Santa Monica Museum Of Flying Mural - https://airwingmedia.com/pilots/2014/santa-monica-museum-of-flying-unveils-mike-machat-mural/

The National Aviation Hall of Fame - Mural saluting legendary Douglas Aircraft airliners earns artist the 11th Annual Combs Gates Award Aviation Hall of Fame enshrinees present $20,000 prize to Mike Machat at NBAA Convention - https://www.nationalaviation.org/mural-saluting-legendary-douglas-aircraft-airliners-earns-artist-the-11th-annual-combs-gates-award/

Amazon Author Book Page References: https://www.amazon.com/Mike-Machat/e/B004M6WC8Q%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

Mike Machat's Art was one of the 50 contributors chosen by the Smithsonian Museum of Flying for this display - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/ten-years-of-flying-high-with-air-and-space-art-17102981/

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Michael "Mike" Machat, born in the 1940s, is an American artist, aviator, // and former NSA agent. ** [<<< Latter NOT correct information - Machat worked in the NSA Graphics Department as an illustrator]

He specializes in aviation art and was a frequent collaborator of R.E.G. Davies on Davies book series An Airline and its Airplanes, and has notably drawn airplanes of Pan Am, TWA, Aeroflot, Delta, TransBrasil, Eastern, British Airways, Saudia, El Al and others as part of his book collaborations with Davies and Marvin Goldman (the latter for Goldman's book about El Al, El Al, Star in the Sky). Machat has also participated in books about the Berlin Airlift and several aircraft types. He has published two books, named World's Fastest Four-Engine Piston-Powered Aircraft: Story of the Republic XR-12 Rainbow, and Painting Aviation's Legends: The Art of Mike Machat.

Machat also served as Editor-in-Chief for Wings & Airpower Magazine as well as Acquisitions Editor for Specialty Press Aviation Publications. He is the author of two best-selling books and many magazine and website articles. // [<<<< Not needed - see below paragraph - Delete]


 * [ In 2001, Machat focused on aviation writing, and became the Editor for Wings & Airpower Magazine from 2002 to 2007. He has since written the definitive book on the Republic XR-12 Rainbow, co-authored FROM PROPS TO JETS, and served as Acquisitions Editor for the Specialty Press Aviation Publications.]

One of Machat's drawings hangs on a wall at Bob Hope Airport in Burbank, California. // [<<<< Not needed - see below paragraph - Delete]


 * [Noted for his extensive work in commercial aviation, Mike's paintings are also displayed in many airline corporate headquarters throughout the world including a mural painted in the terminal building of the Bob Hope Airport in Burbank, California. His client list includes Airbus Industrie, McDonnell Douglas, Pan American World Airways, Delta, Continental, Flying Tigers, * [and his paintings have been accepted into the permanent collections of the Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum, National Soaring Museum, and National Museum of Naval Aviation. More recently he created the centerpiece display for the new Air Force Flight Test Center Museum at Edwards Air Force Base, California.]

Another, titled February 17, 1986, is owned by the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. // [<<<< Not needed - see above paragraph - Delete]


 * [Machat served in the U.S. Air Force overseas from 1967-1970, but did not retire after a full service career. Machat served as a Flight-Rated Senior Artist for the U.S. Air Force Documentary Art Program, from 1978 to 2001. member of the Air Force Art Program, contributing 21 original paintings to the National collection. His aviation artwork also won numerous awards in the illustration West, Experimental Aircraft Association, ASAA, Simuflite, and Naval Aviation Foundation art competitions.]


 * [As an aviator, Machat flew in more than 200 different types of aircraft for his research including the A-4, T-38, F-104, F-15, F-16, F-18, and Concorde. He has also flown with NASA, the Blue Angels, and the USAF Test Pilot School, and was the first Air Force Artist to fly in the Rockwell B-1B Lancer and Grumman F-14 Tomcat in a U.S. Navy exchange program.]

Biography

Machat grew up in Long Island, New York. He would visit New York area airports and draw airplanes as a kid. [citation needed]


 * [Aviation artist, author, and historian, Machat dedicated his career to the documentation of 20th Century aviation history. As the nephew of a Republic Aviation Corporation Chief Engineer, he was inspired to aviation at an early age. Mike completed the Foundation Art Program at New York's Pratt Institute. He served in the U.S. Air Force overseas and later with the National Security Agency later working in the Graphics Department, in Washington D.C.]

He was then hired by McDonnell Douglas as a technical illustrator, becoming a Staff Artist and Corporate Representative. // [<<<< Not needed - see below paragraph - Delete]


 * [After relocating to Los Angeles, he earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree from California State University, Long Beach and was hired by the Douglas Aircraft Company as a technical illustrator. He later became a Staff Artist and Corporate Representative for the McDonnell Douglas Corporation.

In 1984, Mike established his own aviation art studio and was elected first president of the American Society of Aviation Artists. As a senior flight-rated member of the U.S. Air Force Documentary Art Program, Mike contributed 21 works to the collection. He holds an FAA Commercial Pilot Certificate, and has flown in more than 200 different types of aircraft. An avid sailplane pilot, he was also the first Air Force Artist to fly in the Rockwell B-1B Lancer and Grumman F-14 Tomcat in a U.S. Navy exchange program. Mike painted murals at the Bob Hope Airport at Burbank, California, and Air Force Flight Test Center Museum at Edwards AFB.


 * [Education

Machat graduated from Pratt Institute then joined the United States Air Force. Machat relocated to Los Angeles, California, where he attended California State University, Long Beach, Machat soon began working at the Douglas Aircraft Company. [citation needed]

In 1984, Machat established his arts studio and was later elected as president of the American Society of Aviation Artists and was made a member of the Society of Illustrators, both of New York and of Los Angeles. // [<<<< Not needed - see below paragraph - Delete]


 * [In 1984, Machat established an arts studio. He was later elected 'first' president of the American Society of Aviation Artists (ASAA) and was also made a member of the Society of Illustrators, both of New York and of Los Angeles.]


 * [U.S.Air Force and U.S. Navy Pilots - Historic Events in Aviation History depicted in Machat's Art

Cuban Sightseeing Tour [RF-101] Signed Capt.Clyde East - U.S. Air Force  Pilot Ace  This mission provided some of the key photographs used by President John F. Kennedy in formulating his decisions on the CubanMissile Crisis with the U.S.S.R Source American Air Museum - http://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/239796 Everything She's Got [X-Planes] Signed Scott Crossfield Test Pilot Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Scott_Crossfield Faster Than A Speeding Bullet and Six Turnin and Four Burnin - Signed Beryl Erickson U.S. Air Force  Test Pilot B-58 and B-36 Test Flights Source Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_YB-60Source NASA - https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/engle_joe.pdf Fearsome Foursome P-47 Thunderbolts Signed Col. Herschel H. Green U.S. Air Force - Ace Source Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_GreenSource American Air Museum - https://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/241721 First Re-Entry [X-15 66672]  and Free Enterprise [Space Shuttle] Signed by Pilot Cmdr. Joe EngleX-15 First Flown Re-Entry from SpaceSpace Shuttle Enterprise - First Free FlightSource Wikipedia -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Engle https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/engle_joe.pdf Joint Strike Fighter Lockheed X-35 Boeing X-32 USAF USN USMC RAF Royal Navy BAE Systems  Boeing Lockheed Martin Signed.all 13 Test Pilots Source Wikipedia -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Strike_Fighter_program Source Wikipedia -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II Source Boeing -https://www.boeing.com/history/products/x-32-joint-strike-fighter.page Pirate's Bounty [F-8] Signed: Lt.Cdr. John Nichols and Mike Machat - commemorating the U.S. Navy last 'Guns' kill Source Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Nichols]


 * [Murals by Mike Machat

1. "Lockheed P-38 Lightning" - Bob Hope Airport Terminal, Burbank, CA, 1996 Source LA Times - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-03-09-me-44836-story.html 2. "Golden Age of Flight Test" - Air Force Flight Test Center Museum, Edwards AFB, CA 2000 Source - youtube video of art creation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRR9OzXS8Bs 3. "Fly DOUGLAS!" - Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, CA, 2013 Source - The Argonautnews publication - https://argonautnews.com/santa-monica-museum-of-flying-to-unveil-new-douglas-mural/ 4. "Fly NAVY!" - Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, CA, 2014 Source - Air Wing media - https://airwingmedia.com/pilots/2014/santa-monica-museum-of-flying-unveils-mike-machat-mural/ 5. "Record Breakers" - Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, CA, 2015 Source - youtube video of art creation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zne2dG56k8]

Museum of Flying

Machat hosts a series of shows at the Museum of Flying in Santa Monica, California, which began on June 8, 2019. He also painted a mural there. Machat also serves as curator at this museum.

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Sources for Murals added Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 00:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 00:20, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Re Suggested Mike Machat Updates
U.S. Air Force Master Sergeant Schazad - thank you so much!

If a Wiki editor can review my suggestions for Mike Machat that would be fantastic! The Bibliography is so short in content information and achievement

I really appreciate it

kind regards Mike Pemberton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Space and Aviation Firsts (talk • contribs) 00:34, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

PS
I am Australian based on a different date/time zone - MO Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 00:58, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , do you have questions regarding the article? If you want to change the Wikipedia time zone display go to the Preferences setting.  Gerald WL  06:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Requested Mike Machat Updates
Hello

All my requested historical updates in the Mike Machat bibliography for increased factual accuracy and content are above

I am waiting to see how this process works works/progresses as I am new here. Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 06:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Format of Mike Machat Profile
Hello

I have just seen Keith Ferris's wikipedia profile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ferris and now realise Mike Machat's should really be brought into the style and technique used for Keith Ferris including the TOC if there is an Editor willing to do this? Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 07:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , regarding your update requests, please cite all the claims with appropriate sources. It should be reliable and factual.
 * Regarding the article format, we only say what WP:RS say, not copying other articles' template. Also, this is not a "profile," it's an article, we are not giving a platform for the subject.  Gerald WL  07:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Re Mike Machat
Hello Gerald

Look I am going to ask your indulgence.

1] I am a regular financial contributor and user of Wikipedia

2] I do not know your rules nor am I an editor

3] At the beginning of my request I cited the Resources I know of - in turn - the Smithsonian Museum - U.S. Air Force and Aviation Hall of Fame - have their own credible sources better than mine

I am merely making a submission for assistance and accuracy - and trying to be helpful - nothing else

I am waiting to see if I will receive assistance

kind regards Michael Pemberton Space and Aviation Firsts (talk) 07:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , first off all, don't make a Re section, just reply at the section I replied you at.
 * Second, "indulgence"? Do you mean "compassion" and "humane"? I don't think I'm acting inhumane.
 * Third, you said you're a "regular financial contributor and user of Wikipedia." Are you saying that you're paid?
 * Fourth, if you want to be a good editor, follow the rules. You are a "contributor," that means you're an editor, it's the same thing.
 * Fifth, help me by citing the source you have alongside your claim, example: The sky is blue. Click edit to see the syntax. Cheers,  Gerald WL  07:48, 6 September 2020 (UTC)