Talk:Mike Piazza

Pronunciation
I added the correct pronunciation of Piazza's name, as covered in his book "Long Shot" on page 102. Not sure why it was removed. I reinstated it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banks518 (talk • contribs) 21:28, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Hitting Coach
He's it for Italian National Team at 2009 World Baseball Cup... sources are of course only in italian...213.156.52.122 (talk) 14:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Gay?
Shouldn't there be some sort of mention of the widespread rumors that Piazza is gay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.221.152 (talk) 20:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Since it's false, I think not. You should stop wasting your time on here. Yesitsnot (talk) 06:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My Mikey isn't gay.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 03:21, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Does it matter if it's false or not? The rumor itself was so notable that he held a press conference about it. Belle and Sebastian wrote a song about the gay rumors called "Piazza New York Catcher." I think that is evidence of its notability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzjYRWRKb_Y 208.54.32.213 (talk) 06:48, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

A-Rod reference to the 2,000 hits?
--Mikekev58 00:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)Why the A-rod reference to the 2,000 hits? This is a Piazza article. I'm deleting it. This notation was not made by me, Mikekev58. I am a new user and I'm not sure what the rules are about something like this, an edit being ascribed to someone who did not do the editing. But I did not delete the reference to A-Rod and I hope that whoever did it did not intentionally use my name. It appears to be some sort of glitch, since the User Name is automatically entered by Wikipedia.

Controversy in 2002
I don't care if Mike Piazza is gay, straight, bi or married. The information in this article that briefly mentions the controversy in 2002 is relevant information. It succinctly summarizes the details and provides an appropriate link. His clearly worded public statement is quoted. The article also notes he is now married to a Playboy bunny and former Baywatch star.


 * It does not warrant inclusion because the rumor was denied and revealed to be untrue; thus, there is no story. Wikipedia is not for reporting gossip and rumors, hence why you don't see anything about gerbils on Richard Gere's page.  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid.  BTW, be sure to sign your posts.--Brian Brockmeyer 03:09, 13 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Guys, we really need to resolve this revert war. Are you all familiar with wikipedia's 3_revert_rule? Perhaps it's time for some mediation here. --Veronique 22:37, 21 August 2005 (UTC)


 * i don't see why the fact that a rumor was denied makes the rumor not a "story". i also think there is a large difference between an urban legend like gere's gerbil and something that was reported on by all of New york city's newspapers.  moreover, the rumor was started when mets manager bobby valentine told the new york city press that one of his players was gay, but would not mention the player's name.  inclusion of the rumor and press coverage thereof is encyclopedic.  Streamless 18:02, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Song by Belle & Sebastion
Since the song by Belle & Sebastian is mentioned, I have added why it has Piazza in the title. I think it's important to mention not only the song but why the song references Piazza. While it's not one of Piazza's accomplishments, it is trivia. And it's not everyone who has their surname in a song title. It's unique and deserves to have an explanation. --Mikekev58 00:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)Michael Fleming

Mike's baseball career
This article definatly needs a section for what Mike is most famous for... his baseball career. Also, the high school section needs to be cleaned up --Kevin McManus 01:40, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * also, the primary image of piazza should be a baseball image. use the tv show image elsewhere in the article.

"When he was 12, Piazza received personal instruction in his backyard batting cage from Ted Williams." << Is this referring to Vince Piazza or Mike Piazza? It's not clear since the paragraph starts talking about Vince and his baseball career. (Not registered. Please verify then delete my comment if necessary.)

Definitely referring to Mike. It's covered in "Long Shot" by Mike Piazza. Ted Williams comes over to watch Mike in the batting cage and critiques Mike a little bit. Afterwards, Mike asks Ted to sign a copy of Ted's "The Science to Hitting", a book Piazza credits for his great hitting prowess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banks518 (talk • contribs) 21:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

bring back tobacco story
it's a good positive story for the kids reading it.

The Mets have always had a "Face" for each decade. The 70's was Seaver, the 80's had to Hernandez, but the late 90's - early 21st century Mets had Mike. Mike will always be, in my mind at least, one of the top 3 Mets of all time.

This article does not nearly focus on Piazza the player. For one of the best hitting catchers in baseball history its a mess. No real information on his time in NY is even presented. And the picture on top as said needs to be of him in some sort of baseball situation, not hocking gum. Wxthewx99 00:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)


 * He was hawking toothpaste, but, agreed, this article lacks a distinct focus on the player's career considering that what he was best known for by far was playing baseball, unlike someone who's permeated culture. So yeah, there are good articles about baseball players out there that this one would be much better off following. Zookman12 00:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

why were many parts of this talk page erased?
Streamless 19:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know, but don't just revert blindly. You removed new comments.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 20:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


 * i didn't mean to remove anything. there was something pasted into my comment, which was the only thing i was trying to fix. Streamless 18:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Italy?
Any info on why Piazza is playing for Italy in WBC? Is he an Italian citizen? --ChrisRuvolo (t) 19:03, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * His father is... Thunderbunny 00:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Have you sources? Because if the father really is it, also Mike is italian citizen, it's authomatic, he must only visit the local italian consulate and he has the italian passport in few days...213.140.17.100 (talk) 08:03, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * father is italian, now we must see if MP has italian citizenship.. --2.226.12.134 (talk) 14:31, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Trivia
Only 5 other players have ever had over 400 homeruns with over a .300 life time average while never striking out more than 100 times in a season.

Who are the 5 players? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.247.117.116 (talk) 01:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Video game info to be placed here yes or no?
There's been the suggestion by a user User_talk:Secret that the article about Mike Piazza's Strike Zone, for the N64 be moved to this article, he has already replaced it with a link to this page, which means this would be the place that the already existing and future information about the game would be placed, which would be fine also since he is the featured player on the title. This would include cover art, possibly in-game screen shots, as well as the game infobox displaying developer/publisher and other such things, any other thoughts as to whether it should be featured here or on it's own, there is an effort to provide the video game info for all the N64 games currently on Wikipedia and it will need to be expanded considerably whether it is here or there. (Floppydog66 (talk) 14:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC))

section removed
I have recently removed this section in accordance with Wikipedia policy:

''Upon his retirement, Piazza, a consensus future Hall of Famer, Mike hinted that he would like to be inducted wearing a New York Mets cap. "I have to say that my time with the Mets wouldn't have been the same without the greatest fans in the world. One of the hardest moments of my career, was walking off the field at Shea Stadium and saying goodbye. My relationship with you made my time in New York the happiest of my career and for that, I will always be grateful." ''

1. This section reads as a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. I'm not saying that I wholly disagree with it, but it is pure crystal ballism. Wikipedia is not about predicting the future.

2. The citation which seems to support this has nothing to do with the hall of fame. It does NOT hint that he wants a Mets cap. The quote used in this articles is in closing about his career, and never once even alludes to the Hall of Fame. If there is a direct quotation that can be found where Mr. Piazza says "I want a Mets cap on my plaque", then re-add this and properly cite it. Otherwise, it needs to remain outside of this article. LonelyBeacon (talk) 00:09, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

9/11 Home Run
Why is there no mention at all of his post 9/11 Home Run in the first pro sports game in NY since 9/11. The HR was significant in the fact that it was the winning hit for them, kept them in a playoff race, but more importantly, restored happiness throughout many in the city and the state. The play is still talked about as being an important factor to recovering from 9/11, and was a very emotional play. He is remembered for that HR as well as his play as a Met. There has to be at least some mention in this article of it.

I just added it. I have no clue why that wasn't included. -roopsmith —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.170.22 (talk) 06:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

AnniversaRY Question
On May 21, 2010 He received the first pitch from John Franco at Citi Field celebrating the 10 yr anniversary of the 2000 NL Champion Mets.

Shouldn't this be th for 10 th anniversary? 86.40.101.55 (talk) 19:16, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

steroids?
Has he been connected officially or by press rumors to steroid usage? (His late career numbers seem abnormal.) 71.246.144.154 (talk) 18:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There's certainly nothing abnormal about his late career numbers. His last great season was at age 33 and was completely washed up by age 38.  Not that abnormal late-career numbers would constitute any sort of proof.  If there are rumors, my guess is that someone would post them here.  Are you trying to anonymously start rumors?DavidRF (talk) 18:14, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * He most certainly has been alleged to have used steriods. I'm adding a reference.Sylvain1972 (talk) 14:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Why is this topic being suppressed? Piazza has been accused by Jeff Pearlman, Joel Sherman and by Murray Chass. He lied to Chass when he denied it, but has subsequently admitted using androstenedione in his book in his book. The suppression of this topic speaks poorly for wikipedia, or is this now a fan site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.249.35.200 (talk) 06:51, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I agree. He has admitted Andro use. There is debate as to whether or not Andro should be cateorized as a "steroid," but it's definitely a PED. Articles also state that Piazza admitted to this back in 2002, in a New York Times Article. Here's a source: http://www.metstoday.com/8374/12-13-offseason/mike-piazza-admits-peds-use/

How should this be covered? Below is my proposal. I'm not going to add this until it's approved, because it's a controversial issue.

In his autobiography, Piazza admitted to using Androstenedione during his playing career. Androstenedione is considered a performance enhancing drug, and was banned by major league baseball in 2004.

Source - http://mlb.mlb.com/content/printer_friendly/mlb/y2004/m06/d29/c783595.jsp

Should there be any mention that he's been suspected by writers such as Perlman as a steroid user?The 2000 Man (talk) 01:30, 9 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You can put that he has been accused of it, if it is stated in WP:RS as long as you attribute the source and who the accuser was. There are WP:BLP protections though so you have to be very careful that you do not make any statements that could influence a reader of the article into thinking something that isn't absolute fact. Always consider [WP:REDFLAG]], substantial claims require substantial sources. EliteArcher88 (talk) 22:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

What were the circumstances that resulted in the Dodgers trading him right after his best year?
I recall that he was demanding $100,000,000. I could be wrong but this should be covered in the article.His "god father was the manager and still they traded him...172.248.220.223 (talk) 07:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Lasorda was no longer the Manager by that point. There was a contract dispute and the team had just been bought by FOX who wanted to set an example... Fox executives traded him without consulting then General Manager. Good article on the effects of the trade here . Spanneraol (talk) 12:38, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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Revised Notes on Position
In the section when he played for the Mets (context: changing positions): ...."Although recognized as a great hitter, Piazza has had some notable defensive accomplishments. Among them, Piazza caught two no-hitters thrown by Ramón Martínez and Hideo Nomo while playing with the Dodgers. Nomo's was particularly impressive because it happened at Coors Field, notorious at the time for being a hitter-friendly ballpark."

Of course, Piazza caught these LAD pitchers sometime prior to 05/15/98 (trade date to Marlins). The phrasing of the last sentence above implies that since then, Coors is somehow no longer as notorious a launching pad.

Just for kicks, I checked to see how Coors field has somehow changed. At Coors Field, it makes reference to the introduction of storing baseballs in the humidor in 2002 -- which of course, compensated for the extreme dry air at Coors Field. Regardless of the effects of thin air, the increased moisture started keeping the ball in the park, etc.

Although the number of home runs hit per season at Coors Field is decreasing, Coors Field still remains the most hitter friendly ballpark in the Major Leagues by a wide margin.

Anyway, back to the original statement, I might be hypersensitive to the phrasing. That aside, to me, Piazza's listed accomplishments of (a) catching (not pitching) a no-hitter in pre-2002 Coors and (b) a noteworthy fielding percentage in 2000, which is only one among many indicators of a catcher's defensive proficiency throughout his long catching career in no way provides a balanced view of his defensive skills as a backstop. Nor, does it illustrate how he was an insufficient defender at 1B.

My suggestion is to just strip all this weak content from the Piazza article. Instead, just accept that he was an outstanding hitter, the Mets wanted to preserve his knees to prolong his career and let him focus on hitting, include a robust citation for emergent defensive deficiencies at 1B, and outline how the Mets originally planned to restructure the infield -- who would become the starting catcher and who was benched from 1B, etc.

Besides, a brief revision on this positional issue would be more relevant, direct, and less of a article afterthought. Gprobins (talk) 01:08, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

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