Talk:Miko Miyazaki

I created Miko as a main article as a felt she had now become worthy of being considered a main character. I believe there is enough character development on her that warrants such an article. ShadowHare 09:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Good move - I was thinking yesterday that her entry on the characters page was getting long enough to warrant her own page. --Tailkinker 10:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I went around the character pages and changed the Miko links to here rather than her previous place on the Characters of page.JeffKo427 19:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Bias and factual inaccuracies
The first part of the article seems to be written from a strongly anti-Miko (for lack of a better term) perspective. Also, there are several factual errors in the summary; the article until a few minutes ago said that the Order defeated Miko when they first met, which is clearly not the case. The former problem is so pervasive that I'm not sure how to fix it without a complete rewrite. Rogue 9 04:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I made a few minor modifications, based on the fact that Miko does not, actually, execute evil creatures merely for being evil, or other characters merely for being opposed to her.

Needless to say, I wrote the first draft of this article via a combination of my own writing and pasting from the previous subarticle. It was bound to be a messy first draft. The fact that it needs serious revision is something I accepted before I even made it. As for the bias, I did not intend for the article to be "anti-Miko" (if I didn't love Miko, I wouldn't have bothered making the article), but rather making her role as an "adversary" clear. ShadowHare 16:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I got that one for you. I simply made it clear that she's a recurring villain in the intro. Now there's no worry about the rest being unclear on her adversarial status. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.166.162 (talk) 02:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Execution
Why is everyone assuming she executed Shojo? He's a 14th level Aristocrat, and even with Power Attack Miko can't deal killing damage in one shot. He also wasn't helpless, so no coup de gras. I'm not going to go and change them on my own without giving people a chance for feedback, and it may become irrelevant on Monday, but opinions please? Alternator 01:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


 * She nearly cut him in half. That's a fairly clear fatal wound.  It's possible to get one-hit kills even at those levels; there's always the dreaded second 20 on the critical confirm, for instance.  Rogue 9 09:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Why not change it from 'execute' to attack and what not? After all, we really won't know if she killed him until next strip. Gilead 10:15, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * And now, Xs for eyes. Looks dead to me. 129.7.131.198 18:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Well based on her behavior it seems as if shes gone off her rocker. She's clearly full of zeal and fervor, one could argue that shes gone RPG bezerk, and may very well be possible to kill in one stroke. (MrLint 06:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC))

Since Shojo is venerable, he has lost a lot of constitution so his hp would probably be quite low, possibly mid 20's. With a high strength bonus, power attack and magic weapon, I think miko could have killed him in one blow.

Miko has Fallen!
This article's going to have to be gone over with a fine-tooth comb to address this. I've caught what I could, but there's still a lot here which needs to be addressed. Cheers, Lankybugger 17:25, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Wow, here I was, about to change her picture immediately, and someone already beat me to it. Glad to see so many people love both Miko and Wikipedia both! ShadowHare 04:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, interestingly enough, her swords didn't change color along with the rest of her identically-colored clothing... ShadowHare 05:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Wording Use
Can someone please explain the wording of the following statement in the Relationships with Other Characters section:

"Miko has a strong bond (literally and figuratively) with her paladin special mount Windstriker." (Italics mine)

Since they are not actually literally tied together, why is this wording used? Doran . 15:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The literal bond refers to the fact that they are bound to each other through the special ability of the Paladin class. Only Miko can summon Windstriker, so they are literally bound across planes, as opposed to their figurative bond of friendship and trust.ShadowHare 07:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay, thanks for clarifying that Doran . 10:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Does the average wikipedia reader understand the words "railroad plot"?
The article says: "(though Roy Greenhilt laments that it is only because of the 'stupid railroad plot')." The term railroad plot is probably understandable to the average Order of the stick reader or the average role-player. But is it understandable to the average wikipedia reader? -Sensemaker
 * Isn't the meaning fairly obvious? even if the average reader has never read the exact phrase before, presumably they would be familiar with the metaphorical use of "railroad" or "rails". --Krsont 02:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Spoiler pic on first page
I would change that "Miko after falling" pic just as the wiki entry starts. I mean, not EVERYBODY has read up to that part. I would change it for a non-spoiling one. comments?


 * Agreed. Also, now that (spoiler) Miko is out of the story, how about going over the "History" and shortening it to a proper encyclopedia-like summary? I can understand that, as each new comic came out presenting new perspectives on the Miko story, the fans rushed to update the page so that nothing important would be left out, but really, it's far too long and this would be a good time to start toning it down. 213.249.135.41 20:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Torn in half by the explosion
I got the impression that the throne hit her and cut her in half, rather that the explosion directly doing it. Stu42 00:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Villain: Fair description?
After reading all the debate about how to make her role in the story clear without seeming 'anti-Miko', I simply changed the beginning of the article to state she was a villain, just as the Xykon, Redcloak, and Linear Guild articles do for them. It was revered, the editor saying "Villain? I think not. and since I think not, lets edit back to the NPOV :)" But I really don't find that to be POV. She IS a villain. She has antagonized the heroes from the start. Her motivations don't enter into it.

Thoughts? 68.197.166.162 (talk) 02:25, 22 February 2008 (UTC)