Talk:Miles Dempsey

Biographical dates missing
The article doesn't mention his date of birth or the presumed promotions to brigadier and major-general - and did he make full general? Cyclopaedic 19:03, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008
Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 19:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Origins of name
Discussion reposted from User talk:Dominique Fournier
 * Although I'm not particularly interested in things military, I nonetheless try to add bits of information on pages that deal with this topic when I come across them. I agree with the fact that the etymology of his family name says nothing at all about the person; but I fail to see how this is more or less relevant than stating that he "was a direct descendant of the O'Dempseys of Clanmalier, an aristocratic Gaelic family with a history traceable to a High King of Ireland in the second century A.D." (not to mention his 17th century ancestor). After all, Ó Díomasaigh was the real name of the family, and I think one should rather talk about "the Ó Díomasaighs of Clanmalier" than "the O'Dempseys", a late Anglicized name, if his ancestry has to be mentioned. And given that, I don't consider it irrelevant to explain here, for those who might be interested but who don't know Irish, the meaning of such a name. (by User:Dominique Fournier)
 * The article is about the man, not his family or the origins of his name. Brief statements about his ancestry are relevant; going into the derivation of what is a fairly common name is not. Cyclopaedic (talk) 10:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree that the derivation of the family name should not be in this article. There is plenty of scope to add the information to the Dempsey page. Stephen Kirragetalk - contribs 13:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Naming of Caen streets
Discussion reposted from User talk:Dominique Fournier
 * I also fail to understand the change about the information concerning the district of Caen where the street is : saying "linked with the war" seems a bit vague to me : which war ?
 * The war you mentioned earlier in the sentence!

Not the war in general (haha), anyway. The town-planners and the city council were careful about not limiting name-giving in this area to WWII personalities, but including references to peace and the making of Europe.
 * Which is wholly irrelevant to Miles Dempsey.

You may not be fond of the latter personnally, but suppressing this "non military" information garbles the context in which the name was given. In other words, there is life outside the army (surprisingly enough) :o) ! (by User:Dominique Fournier)
 * Which is wholly irrelevant to Miles Dempsey. The whole reference to street-naming could come out entirely, but if it stays it must be limited to information relevant to a reader of an article on Miles Dempsey. It should also be supported by appropriate inline citations.
 * I am reposting these discussions on the article's Talk page. Cyclopaedic (talk) 10:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You could add the street under "Places" on the Dempsey (disambiguation) page. Stephen Kirragetalk - contribs 13:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Tributes
This section mentions the Dutch village of Langenboom having a street named after Miles Dempsey. Which is correct, but the wonder is why this deserves special mentioning? As in: why single out this village, and leave out the 4 other towns in NL that have a street named after Dempsey? Those are Helmond, Panningen, Sittard, Venray, alphabetically. (All in the area that was largely liberated by the English in the fall of 1944). All street names in the Netherlands can be found on the public site of the Dutch land registry, so you find these places by entering 'Dempsey' into the search bar: https://bagviewer.kadaster.nl/lvbag/bag-viewer/index.html#?searchQuery=dempsey&resultOffset=0. I misplaced my wikipedia credentials, so for now sign with IP. Thanks, Marc 145.130.96.120 (talk) 22:05, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Contradictory Statements between biographical pages - John Monash and Miles Dempsey
At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Monash a statement is made explaining: "On 12 August 1918 Monash was knighted as a Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath on the battlefield by King George V,[2][16] the first time a British monarch had honoured a commander in such a way in 200 years."

On this page, the following contradictory statements are made: "On the 15th of October 1944, during a visit to the 2nd army by King George V1, Miles Dempsey was Knighted on the battlefield by the King, an event of historical importance in that no reigning monarch had bestowed such an honour on a soldier in the field of battle since Henry V at Agincourt in 1415. Dempsey was well aware that his ancestor, Sir Terence O'Dempsey had also been Knighted on the battlefield by the Earl of Essex in 1599."

Surely the knighthood in 1415 was irrelevant (not the most recent) if there was a battlefield knighthood in 1599? And surely the knighthood of Monash counts in this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbossley (talk • contribs) 01:38, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

--Was just about to come here and say the same thing. Monash trumps Dempsey by a long shot. --Mat Hardy (talk) 05:16, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

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1918: mustard gas barrage n o t  at La Vacquerie
There is a sentence saying
 * On 12 March 1918, as the Germans prepared to launch their Spring Offensive, they laid down a heavy mustard gas barrage on Dempsey's battalion, which was now at La Vacquerie with Dempsey commanding D Company.

La Vacquerie is in the Normandy region (northwestern France), hundreds of km away from the front. --Präziser (talk) 05:16, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Did you check he cited source? Hawkeye7   (discuss)  06:03, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

I see this has already been fixed (Lavaquerie on the Oise). Confusingly, there is also a place called Villers-Bocage just behind the Allied Somme sector (same name as the place where there was fighting in Normandy in 1944).Paulturtle (talk) 04:04, 5 November 2022 (UTC)