Talk:Military Order of Saint James of the Sword

Page move against consensus
You moved this page without consensus. In English, this is the Order of Saint James of the Sword. I don't care what it's called in the native Portuguese. This is English-language Wikipedia. Please go to WP:RM to have this moved back. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 04:21, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

My main consensus is that Order of Santiago holds that Article name and since this particular Article is of the Portuguese Branch should this not then hold it's similar name of 'Order of Santiago of the sword'?

Secondly, to move this back could i not just do it manually, through edit? Torontino (talk) 04:39, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Your concept is wrong. There is no consensus as you're the only editor that thought moving the page was a good idea. This is English-language Wikipedia and the source material (in English) doesn't use the term Santiago. Because of you an admin will have to make the move. You can request it at WP:RM. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 04:51, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

So will you be changing Order of Santiago Article name on the same grounds? Torontino (talk) 05:29, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That's not a bad idea. It's insufficiently referenced and needs work. The difference is, I'd post on the talk page first to ask if anyone has a problem with moving it. Because this article exists we'd have to decide what name would be best. Again, this is based on the source material and I haven't read the material because the citations are so few. I'd have to do research. Anyway, I hope you've learned a lesson about WP:BRD. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 16:01, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 24 December 2016
Order of Santiago of the Sword → Military Order of Saint James of the Sword – Because my concept is wrong,there is no consensus and this is English-language and source material (in English) doesn't use the term Santiago wikipedia. Torontino (talk) 05:16, 24 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Given this is requested as a simple "undo" I have performed it right way - Nabla (talk) 13:39, 24 December 2016 (UTC)