Talk:MilkDrop

Merged into
I've merged projectM into this article. These programs are just different implementations of the same "standard". Maybe if the articles were longer they would work better separately. Alphonze 06:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Trivia section added
I just added the 'Trivia' section by adding new information to existing information. All the existing information was correct, but did not included several facts which would make the article more neutral, unbiased, and informative.

I also just added some information about the basics of presets, and preset authoring.

I don't really understand the addition of pre-render based 3d graphics engines in the 'see also' section. These programs have nothing to do with real time visuals. Milkdrop can plot points in 3d if programmed to do so by a preset author, but it cannot render 3d polygons, lighting etc. I'm reverting this edit. Eos4life 04:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Tone
I've been trying to improve this article in a citeable manor recently. While I do believe the section that was added titled "Instructions to enable this feature in Winamp (All versions)" is good useful knowledge, I do not think it matches the tone of encyclopedic writing. I'm not going to step on anyone's toes and will leave it in for minds more accustomed to this style writing since I am admittedly a novice in this realm.Eos4life 05:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Remove Notability Warning
I propose the notability warning is removed for the following reasons:

1) In it's later life the plugin was and is still (I think) included with Winamp itself, a piece of software which has had 10s (100s?) of millions of downloads, so it was widely distributed.

2) The very large number of presets produced for it by 3rd party individuals.

3) The large volume of discussion about Milkdrop on the Winamp forums.

4) The exceptionally high quality of the visualizations produced by Milkdrop, compared to most other music visualization software. Subjective, I know, but obvious to most. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.30.129 (talk) 04:42, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I would agree with you on all points. I think notability has been established, although a few more references from reliable sources would be ideal. - Shiftchange (talk) 05:42, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I too believe that this is a remarkable program which is highly noteworthy. Indeed, I also think that its original author, Ryan Geiss, is noteworthy just for having created such a remarkable piece of software.  There was once an article about him on Wikipedia, and I found it very interesting.  (I first learned there about TOF cameras.)  Sadly, it has already been deleted. DrHow (talk) 01:44, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I removed the tag; I also agree it should be removed which makes 4 editors who agree, and the tag was from 2008. Squish7 (talk) 03:42, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

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Minor Quibble
The MilkDrop page is linked in the Fractal software / Open Source category. Couple of problems here: My suggestions would be to trim down the article massively and succinctly describe it as an audio-visualizer plugin that was popular in the 2000s. I rarely suggest removing information from a wikipedia article, but wow. EdityMcEditorson (talk) 06:09, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * MilkDrop itself is pretty much abandonware visualizer software. Period.  It may be open source, but examining the source will quickly explain why it isn't being maintained.  Fractals can be done with it in theory, but poorly.  Maybe this should be brought up over there but whatever, I'm lazy tonight.
 * Due to usage of an old shader compiler library any attempts at a real Julia or Mandelbrot quickly hit the PS 2.0 instruction limit (the forced unrolling of loops exaggerates this problem greatly). This is from personal experience.  I was able to get an HLSL sound reactive Julia set just barely working in the limit.  PS 3.0 and later are entirely broken.  MilkDrop is not a suitable tool for realtime fractal work.  It's a cool visualizer.
 * More importantly (and on the topic of this page)... I loved it back in the day, but MilkDrop is essentially irrelevant, and could probably do without the history section (not that important for the level of detail) and the presets section is just silly considering the plugin is distributed with a text file describing all of that in a probably clearer fashion.

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maya 5.208.24.209 (talk) 21:06, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Source citing the legitimacy of Milkdrop3 being "official"
Since the end of July, a user called "Milkdrop3" has added two new entries pertaining to "Milkdrop3". This was reverted with the reason of it being not official, despite its name, and that it should rather be in its own article deemed eligible for inclusion, this was later reverted by user "Milkdrop3", claiming that since the Milkdrop project has been dead in the water, that Milkdrop3 is now "official". No sources were cited for this claim and to this day remains disputed, and the addition of "Double-Presets" and "Milkdrop3" are more than likely just shameless self-promotion.

My question is, what should be done about this? 0x5066 (talk) 21:25, 22 September 2023 (UTC)


 * We should hang him! MilkDrop3 (talk) 22:18, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Dude you're such a pathetic low life fuck with nothing better to do, I feel almost sorry for you.
 * You've been obsess with me for years.
 * Get a fucking life. And a girlfriend. You won't have time to remove lines from Wikipedia the day you're happy.
 * And for for fuck's sake stop acting like you own MilkDrop, you don't know shit.
 * PS: somebody should add that MilkDrop now support drag and drop : https://twitter.com/MilkDrop2077/status/1705441077237329980
 * That's called proud-self-promotion motherfucker MilkDrop3 (talk) 05:27, 23 September 2023 (UTC)