Talk:Millie Bobby Brown/Archive 1

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2016
Haidend (talk) 19:58, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2016
Haidend (talk) 20:04, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

"Hispanic actress"
The introduction calling Brown a "Hispanic actress" seems to stretch belief to me. If Brown is Hispanic, then Emma Watson must be French, Amy Adams is Italian, and Joaquin Phoenix is Puerto Rican. Their pages refer to them as British, American, and American respectively. I will therefore revert this edit, with small modification. --FangXianfu (talk) 00:46, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2016
The article is not a stub. Please remove the stub template from bottom.

1.39.36.229 (talk) 14:06, 27 October 2016 (UTC) There is no specific minimum size for stub removal; Stub refers to 250, 500 and 1500 words - but this is well short of any of these - if it gets to 500 words then AutoWikiBrowser will remove the stub when it next crawls past, - Arjayay (talk) 14:18, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌ If you click "page size" when on the article page, you will find it says "Prose size (text only): 1012 B (171 words) "readable prose size""

"Spanish-born British actress"
Wouldn't it be acceptable to refer to her as a "Spanish-born British actress"? Spanish-born does not necessarily imply Hispanic heritage but simply her birthplace. This would appear to appease both sides of the argument.Wikidumbo in the haus. (talk) 03:01, 5 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Where exactly would you add "Spanish-born British actress"? Early Life, the second paragraph of the page already explains that. The facts box does not lend itself to content such as "Spanish-born British actress"? Peter K Burian (talk) 14:51, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

IP editors changing her birthplace to Marvella
Sources say that Millie Bobby Brown was born in Barcelona.

1, 2, 3, 4. --Rainbow Archer (talk) 15:05, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Now few Spanish sources mention that she was born in Marbella. 1, 2. But there is no English source which states that she was born in Marbella. Two English sources and two non-English sources mention her birthplace as Barcelona. --Rainbow Archer (talk) 15:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * She is born in Marbella, lived only in Barcelona. --Maintrance (talk) 15:15, 16 August 2016 (UTC)


 * In this video she sad, "I was born in Málaga". Barcelona is probably wrong too. --Maintrance (talk) 05:30, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

If she was born in Marbella, then she was also born in Málaga, since Marbella is in the province of Málaga. Perhaps she meant Málaga province, not Málaga city. JHBledsoe (talk) 19:27, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

"English actress"
Is there an official policy/guideline for multiple citizenship owners referencing in Wikipedia? Because Brown was born in and lived her earlier years in Spain, so she must be a Spanish citizen, regardless of the English citizenship she applied for when she moved there afterwards (she lived in England 4 of the 5 years required to be naturalized, so her parents must have requested it based on their own citizenship). Therefore shouldn't she be introduced as "Spanish actress"? She has English citizenship, but she's surely a Spanish national with citizenship even before that. So unless there's a weird policy stating that applied for-citizenship trumps natural one...


 * Spain doesn't have Jus soli (birth on soil) laws which means that she wouldn't be a Spanish citizen just for being born there. On the other hand, the UK has Jus sanguinis laws (birth by descent) so by having British parents she herself was born a British citizen. Having been born abroad, it simply would have taken a bit of paperwork to get her, well, papers. There is a second generation rule, though, so if her future possible children were to be born outside the UK, they wouldn't necessarily have the right to British citizenship, if they were entitled to another country's citizenship (due to being born in a jus soli country like the US or because the other parent can pass his citizenship down - basically they'd be born British only if they would otherwise be stateless).


 * Changing topics slightly, shouldn't there be more emphasis on her British citizenship rather than her English"ness". Though the UK likes to call its highest level sub-national jurisdictions countries, they aren't in the common use of the word. It's like how the states of the United States aren't sovereign states. It'd be like emphasizing how Bavarian or Vermonter an actor is. Sure, mention it, but doesn't her actual nationality deserve top billing (like in the info box)?24.212.153.7 (talk) 06:03, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2017
I want to change her age because you got it wrong( its is actually 11 years old) alos I would like to add that she is in a relationship with Finn Wolfhard. Thank you Monicafreeman101 (talk) 22:29, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  JTP (talk • contribs) 22:55, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2018
Change Millie's age from 13 to 14 Thank you 89.154.250.253 (talk) 00:12, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Her Birth date is February 19. There is a template on the page that will automatically update her age when that date is reached.   Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:34, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2018
Chicken24660 (talk) 16:04, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Not a request. ToThAc (talk) 16:26, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2018
You need to add that Kira Spencer Brown is Millie Bobby Browns biggest fan Musicalgeek123 (talk) 16:03, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. On a related note, Musicalgeek123, your article draft also needs reliable sources, or it will not be accepted. Please read the introduction to referencing.  Anon 126   (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 17:14, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Love life
Millie Bobby brown is publicly dating 15 year old singer/social media influencer, Jacob Sartorius. Millie and Jacob met through instagram back in September 2017 when Millie joined Jacobs livestream announcing his new song released "Skateboard". Their relationship went public on valentines day 2018. Millie brought to her Instagram account a picture of the two touching foreheads about to lean in for a kiss with the caption "happy valentine day J". That has over 4 million likes in less then 23 hours. They have been sneaking around hanging out here and there and have been really good at keeping their relationship private. They were recently caught on Jacobs off day on tour in Atlanta, Millie second home town, holding hands at the local Starbucks and jumping around at the trampoline park. On Febuary 10th, Millie went live on her instagram. With over 59k people viewers, Jacob Sartorius joins the livestream leaving a comment saying "miss you baby". Millies response was adorable. She had asked everyone to asked her questions in the comments. Someone goes on to ask "are you guys dating". Millie reads it with a slight hesitation in her voice "yes we are dating" with the biggest smile on her face. Millie surprised Jacob at his show in Salt Lake City on February 14th 2018 (Valentines day). She had made a pre filmed video tapping of her saying "Hey guys! Millie here, I hope you guys are enjoying the show so far, I wish I could be there with you, Jacob but unfortunately I can't so I bought you some presents to make it a bit more special for you. Hope you like the gifts! Love you guys, Love you Jacob! BYEEE!!!!!" Millie has a much larger platform then Jacob does and that leads to loads of hate on the couples open relationship, Jacob has gained over 100,000 Instagram followers in 23 hours from Millie instagram post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reeganbelanger5565 (talk • contribs) 18:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Wut. Uhm. Okay, cute but it isn't encyclopedic. Sorry. We don't need a love life section. So ❌. Maybe we can mention their relationship in the personal life section but you must provide realible sources. All the best!!  Mia o w   18:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2018
Bobthebuillder69 (talk) 02:46, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —   IVORK  Discuss 02:56, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2018
mille bobby brown is 14. 118.211.125.115 (talk) 23:55, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2018
mille is followed by the one and only famious justin beirber and ruby hay isnt that amazing! 118.211.125.115 (talk) 00:03, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌ Not a request. -- Mia o w   02:38, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Enola Holmes
Article says "In January 2018, Brown was cast to star and produce the film adaptation of the Enola Holmes Mysteries book." -- the article is locked, can't correct this. Should be "book series". The "Enola Holmes Mysteries" is a series of 6 books, the first being The Case of the Missing Marquess. 202.81.249.129 (talk) 12:25, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2018
In the Career section add about her Instagram page as she has amounted up to 16.3 Million this probably has impacted her career. Scrumbum (talk) 16:34, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Disagree - Her instagram follower count isn't really relevant here, It'd be no different to having a Facebook like count or Twitter follower account .... Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:14, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Lead image
Due to the importance of bureaucracy, I'm seeking to reach consensus on the lead image for this article. In my opinion, this is a tad silly discussion to have given the fact that the image(s) on the right A) is more recent and hence depicts Brown's older appearance better in terms of accuracy, and B) the facial expression it portrays is more natural. Hurrygane (talk) 06:15, 13 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Would be nice if you weighed in on the debate seeing that you asked for it. Hurrygane (talk) 06:19, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * the two newer images my be more recent but suffer in quality, especially colors. --Denniss (talk) 10:29, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The image that was taken in 2018 reigns supreme. -- Grammar-Whizz (talk) 10:45, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * And I generally would recommend this. Two years is not a long time to dramatically change the appearance. It's still not Michael Jackson.--Jimi Henderson (talk) 10:47, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * She's not an adult either? Hurrygane (talk) 10:53, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * In any case, it mocks the image of an adult, and you never said anything about my idea.--Jimi Henderson (talk) 11:18, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * If the change of the image doesn't violate any policy, then there should be no problem. A more current image is always better, per common sense. -- Mia o w   16:20, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, about Jimi's comment, I want to say teenagers change their appearance in just months. You can search in google how much Brown has changed in less than a year, comparing her pictures from SAG awards 2017 and SAG awards 2018. -- Mia o w   16:40, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit requests on 14 November 2018
Please change "Girls Like You" to "Girls Like You", and "Girls Like You" (Volume 2) to "Girls Like You" (Volume 2). The one who creates pages (talk) 19:45, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: I've redirected the main song to the main article and I've redirected the volume 2 song to the alternate version, Thanks – Davey 2010 Talk 21:50, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2018
She starred in the music video for Maroon 5's single "Girls like you" with many other celebrity. She perfomed Cardi B's part with Maroon 5 of the song on 23rd September 2018 in Nashville. Gota14 (talk) 11:07, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌ Please provide reliable sources for your suggested change. Fish +Karate 13:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Source: https://www.wmagazine.com/story/millie-bobby-brown-maroon-5-concert-cardi-b-verse — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gota14 (talk • contribs) 10:54, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2018
Please change to because the current ref doesn't mention Brown. Ref-checking (talk) 20:28, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 21:44, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

She got her second Emmy-nomination for playing Eleven in Stranger Things in 2018. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/70th_Primetime_Emmy_Awards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gota14 (talk • contribs) 11:00, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Millie Bobby Brown; youngest ever UNICEF goodwill ambassador
Millie Bobby Brown Named Youngest-Ever UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador [source: Reuters] 24.80.202.53 (talk) 13:16, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. It's already in the article. Best regards. -- Mia o w   15:40, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Memes
In § Career, before the last paragraph ("In March 2019, [...]") add: In June 2018, Brown became the target of memes depicting her as homophobic based on false accusations, causing her to temporarily deactivate her Twitter account. Per WP:NOTCENSORED and WP:PUBLICFIGURE ("noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article"). Complies with WP:NPOV, WP:V and WP:NOR. --77.173.90.33 (talk) 08:36, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

❌ This doesn't belong to her professional career and it's not relevant in that section. Best regards. -- Mia o w   15:37, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * True. Okay, same request, but also change "Early life" to "Personal life", and add the suggested content at the end of aforementioned section. (Or - I guess - keep it as "Early life", given she's only 15.) --77.173.90.33 (talk) 16:05, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The section "early life" describes her early years and cannot be changed to "personal life", but even here, the content you propose doesn't correspond there either. Plus, this twitter's "homophobic meme" thing hasn't been relevant itself to be mentioned here. If she temporarily deactivate her twitter account it was mainly because some homophobic people that used her image to gain some attention, tagged her. Since she deactivate temporarily her TW account, then the media got interested on why she did that, but the meme itself and the hashtag aren't relevant. -- Mia o w   16:58, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You write that the "Early life" section describes her early years and cannot be changed to "Personal life". Since the article could theoretically be edited to literally modify the text "Early life" to "Personal life", I'm assuming by "cannot be changed" you mean it "should not be changed" because of the section's content ("describes her early years"). Modification of the section's content - supplementing it - is the reason I proposed changing the section heading. Modification of a section's content could justify modifying its heading. Again, you wrote the section "Early life" describes her early years and cannot be changed to "Personal life", without explaning your stance. This is frustrating for someone like me who is trying to improve Wikipedia, and then has to deal with another editor who appears unable to clearly convey their reasoning. And this was just the first phrase of your first sentence. The sentence continues with the statement that "even here, the content you propose doesn't correspond there either". Again, without giving any explanation. Next you continue with a "Plus, [...]" where you state the incident "hasn't been relevant itself to be mentioned". This, again, is your personal, subjective opinion. It was relevant enough for many reliable published sources to write about - in some instances in-depth. Yet you, as a single editor on Wikipedia, have now decided that this verifiable, neutral, reliable material should not be included in the article. Not only that, you write that "if she temporarily deactivate her twitter account it was mainly because [...]", so you appear to think you're in a position to explain to me what Brown's reasoning was, despite sources stating that "her representatives could not confirm the reasoning at the time of publication". You, as a sole editor, are not in a position to decide that "the meme itself and the hashtag aren't relevant". The media have written about this incident in-depth. Many, many reliable sources. But, you know, I'm not going to fight you on this. What I wanted to add... Wikipedia readers don't need to know about it and aren't interested in it. Jim Carrey once publicly confessed his love for Emma Stone, it made headlines everywhere. Then he said it was a "joke". Also not mentioned on Wikipedia. I guess memes and jokes, no matter what a big role they may have played in a celebrity's life aren't "professional" (sounding) enough to be included in Wikipedia articles. As an Inclusionist, I think it's a damn shame. --77.173.90.33 (talk) 18:06, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌ I'm gonna ask you to stay calm. What I told you is what some sources have stated at the time. Since there is no confirmation on why she temporaly deactivate, then this definitely have no place here. I don't think adding irrelevant events is a way of improvement content. Also, remember this is not a forum. Best regards. -- Mia o w   19:12, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * As I wrote, "I'm not going to fight you on this." I did not modify to re-submit my edit request, so there was no reason for your recent . I wrote a lengthy paragraph explaining my point of view and the impression you gave me, including your - what I believe to be - unsubstantiated claims. Apparently this gave you the impression that I am not calm. After all, you asking me to "stay calm" implies you believe I might not be. To prevent misunderstandings: I was and still am calm. I'm not interested in discussing this subject matter any further with you. I don't care enough about it to insist modification of the article. If I did, I certainly wouldn't ask you again, because I believe - at the very least in this context - you lack objective, analytical reasoning skills. I'd go for dispute resolution via WP:3O. But, again, not worth the effort. We're done talking; no need to modify the article. --77.173.90.33 (talk) 20:05, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 'Miaow': It's very poor conduct to use a transparent ad hominem like 'calm down' in conversation with contributors here. It's an undignified and cheap way to lend weight to one's own side in an argument by undermining the interlocutor. Please refrain from indulging in such behaviour in future, and- with reference to this: 'Since there is no confirmation on why she temporaly deactivate, then this definitely have no place here. I don't think adding irrelevant events is a way of improvement content.'- please try to express yourself more clearly for ease of comprehension on the part of those with whom you are having a discussion/ those whom you are attempting to lecture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.219.72 (talk) 21:14, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Infobox
Curious why the article is lacking the common infobox for key facts. I'm more than happy to add it if just hasn't been done, but also didn't want to step on toes if there was a reason the article didn't include it. Seanpaune (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2019
Bournemouth, Dorset. Not Bournemouth, Hampshire 2A02:C7F:7C05:2600:29A0:DF79:22C7:9C4A (talk) 20:44, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done – Dave | Davey 2010 Talk 20:55, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Edit Suggestion
Her age is being displayed as 15 on the google website summary in the search engine results, but the information on the actual Wikipedia page displays that she’s 19, not sure if a bug or misinformation Sauceman911 (talk) 04:11, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Name
So is her full name just 'Millie Bobby Brown', as in, 'Bobby' like a cutesy sort-of-female riff on her dad's name 'Robert'? Or is her first name actually Millicent, or Amelia, or something else you can make into 'Millie'? Or is her first name 'Millie Bobby'? It just seems weird she's ALWAYS given the full name; I guess it's because 'Millie Brown' isn't very distinctive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.125.108 (talk) 22:09, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * This page is not a forum. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. Thank you. -- Mia o w   15:48, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Whoever claimed this page WAS a forum, exactly? On the matter at hand- it's debatable whether someone questioning whether or not exist any sources that would make sense of her weird, "stagey"-sounding name mightn't constitute "improvement of this article", but since you're inclined to take a hard line on the subject, "do what thou wilt". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.219.72 (talk) 20:26, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, looking at the matter, I'm not entirely sure on what basis you (particularly as a comparative newcomer with nothing more to your name than 'Pending changes reviewer'), assume this de haut en bas position of authority with regard to this article and others- see below in your condescending responses to another contributor in the 'Memes' section- but please bear in mind that on Wikipedia all are equal and so your passive-aggressive repeated 'please remember this is not a forum' and 'I'm gonna ask you to stay calm' simply won't fly. People- many of whom have contributed to this project for many more years than you yourself- most certainly don't require lecturing by you on what a talk page is or is not, nor with regard to your opinions on their calmness or lack thereof. Please also ensure when communicating with others that you attempt to make yourself as clear as possible; English may not be your first language, and most of what you say is intelligible, but sometimes your spelling and grammar make it hard to grasp the meaning of what you're attempting to convey. Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.219.72 (talk) 20:43, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * What a condescending reply. A "comparative newcomer"? Look at his contributions; you on the other hand are unregistered and seem to contribute mainly snarky replies. Whether or not you considered his response respectful (it seemed perfectly acceptable and relevant to me) there's no need to attack the contributor on account of their level of contribution (and it makes little to no sense whatsoever when they're actually a substantial contributor to Wikipedia, contrary to your assumption). GhostOfNoMeme (talk) 22:03, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

i guess we'll nevah know 🤷🏼‍♀️ Lilacearthling (talk) 09:36, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2020
I would Like to change the picture Maddiemax123 (talk) 21:44, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * You can suggest any of the images from commons:Category:Millie Bobby Brown – Thjarkur (talk) 23:54, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2020
Kelly should be spelt Kellie 88.144.213.160 (talk) 17:04, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Not what the cited source says – Thjarkur (talk) 18:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2020
Add "Sophia M. Pietrzak, a childhood actress starring in Teletubbies, is a longtime best friend of Millie and her family" to the Early Life section. https://abconceuponatime.fandom.com/wiki/Millie_Bobby_Brown Ajwest333 (talk) 03:35, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌ do you have a source?  HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The request was edited post-decline to include a link. However, it's user-generated and thus not reliable.  Moreover, it doesn't seem helpful to just say "so-and-so was her friend" without some context to establish some significance. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 04:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2020
Brown is also dubbed as " The Queen of Netflix". Mileven Stan (talk) 22:20, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

She has been dubbes that nickname for a while now. Mileven Stan (talk) 22:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Could not verify that in reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:57, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2020
Henrika Sampford was her best friend in elementary school. She moved to Czechia when they where in second grade. They no longer talk. 89.248.248.106 (talk)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Anyway, this is clearly not the site for gossip and rumours. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2020
I suggest to include that she narrated SPHERES which won the Gran Prix at the Venice Film Festival in 2018. Here's a link: https://www.indiewire.com/2018/09/venice-film-festival-2018-awards-winners-full-list-1202001932/ CongregationLA (talk) 04:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please provide the exact sentence(s) you want added. Rummskartoffel (talk) 14:39, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi protection is to protect from vandalism. Not to choose what to allow into an article while you sit back and deny the peons like some lords of the exchequer. This is a textbook abuse of protection. I question whether there has even been significant vandalism to such a low traffic page to warrant semi protection? 121.210.33.50 (talk) 02:17, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Family
The Brown family production company PCMA is named after Paige, Charlie, Millie, and Ava. Can we list the names of her family (her siblings) in the article? Checking in case there is some rule or technicality I'm not aware of. It is strange the article doesn't even mention her older sister Paige who along with Millie was one of the producers on Enola Holmes. -- 109.78.213.7 (talk) 07:06, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Early Life - bad style
the final statement says: "Brown divides her time between London, United Kingdom, and Atlanta, Georgia." I find it downright bad style to assume the reader can't be sure where London is whilst believing the same would know "Atlanta, Georgia" was in the US. The majority of English speakers (and readers) worldwide are OUTSIDE the US. Dcutter (talk) 20:27, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I can't wait for some confused reader to complain that they thought it meant London, Ohio, or London, Kentucky, or London, California. 😃 -- 109.78.213.7 (talk) 07:10, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * The clue is in the Atlanta part. Most English speakers will know where Atlanta is. --Trans-Neptunian object (talk) 22:34, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Millie Bobby Brown (born 19 February 2004) is an British actress. Some people who actually SPEAK English might argue that it should be "a" British actress. Or simply change "British" to "English". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.44.200.78 (talk)

Business Ventures
Brown launched a color cosmetics and skincare line called Florence by Mills on August 26 2019. 80.238.197.107 (talk) 17:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Nominations for Enola Holmes
https://ew.com/awards/2021-nickelodeon-kids-choice-awards-nominees/

Millie is nominated for a 2021 Kids choice awards for best Movie Actress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C5C:6D00:9DCE:A1AD:452C:957A:37D7 (talk) 06:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

She was also nominated for a London Film Critics' Circle award for best young actress. http://criticscircle.org.uk/female-filmmakers-lead-nominees-for-the-critics-circle-film-awards/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C5C:6D00:9DCE:A1AD:452C:957A:37D7 (talk) 06:58, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

New Photo
Can we have a new photo of her? She's like 14 in this photo, now she is 17 and a more recent one is needed. HumanHistory1 (talk) 22:24, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * More recent? Yes, here you go. Better? I'm not getting into that discussion again. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah these look more recent. Also, what discussion? I've never been on this talk page before. HumanHistory1 (talk) 20:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I've had a discussion about which photo is better for another article. It wasn't fun. If you think either one of these is better than the current photo you could try inserting it. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:09, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * messed up the caption in Special:Diff/1018268924 but didn't re-insert that copyvio, the filename was changed before the edit was published. (not sure why they used the undo function at all..) Deniss: per WP:BRD, could you give the reason for the reversion here so it can be discussed? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Only just noticed Batman moved the image out of the infobox, now I think I see why you reverted it. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * can anyone change a new copyrighted picture in infobox. I am new to editing in wikipedia.Iambatman2022 (talk) 08:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair use images are not allowed when freely licensed alternatives are available. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:41, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1 and 4 could possibly be used; 2 and 4 are not that good in my view. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:06, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I meant 2 and 3 not 2 and 4. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Should this article include alleged sex abuse?
Her team made a statement about it but perhaps we may need to wait until she's 18 to discuss these graphic descriptions in the article. Trillfendi (talk) 19:58, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Only if reliable secondary sources have reported on it which we could use as references. Her current age is irrelevant for this. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 02:56, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Reliable sources did report on it. Trillfendi (talk) 05:41, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * In that case go ahead. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 14:35, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2021
Change Brown in 2000 to Born in 2000 185.95.23.239 (talk) 08:16, 29 May 2021 (UTC)


 * A quick ctrl+F doesn't find the phrase "Brown in 2000" in the article, as she wasn't born until 2004. Are you possibly misreading the caption "Brown in 2020" below the picture in the infobox? Kevillarreal (talk) 08:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Millie B was not a british rapper. This is Millie Bobby Brown, the actress known for her role as Eleven ("El") in the popular Netflix series "Stranger Things". Born in 2004, not 2000. Also new recent photo of the actressis needed asap! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.160.149.171 (talk) 15:01, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

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Controversy section was removed
On May 15, i made a small section about her reportedly deactivating her account on Twitter due to memes being spread about her, although this was later removed. Is it okay if i insert the section again, or atleast add it to another section? I put plenty of reliable sources, and removing it completely seems counterintuitive Spiderwinebottle (talk) 07:54, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm onside with keeping it out. The sourcing verifies that the falsehood existed, but it doesn't verify that it's notable. As another editor said, it's made up nonsense that isn't true. That a bunch of people decided to spread it around isn't notable in this age of the easy viral, and it really doesn't have anything to do with her at the heart of it. My two cents.  signed, Willondon (talk)  12:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm confused - doesn't media coverage make the incident notable enough to be mentioned on her page? (References: 1 2 3 4 5 67) Spiderwinebottle (talk) 19:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a compendium of Twitter gossip. The fact that news outlets reported on some inane social media drama doesn't mean that it is automatically WP:DUE for inclusion in her biography. Spicy (talk) 19:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I would argue that the Vox article is really about toxic meme culture, and tactics of suggesting preposterous things, and being able to spread hate through concern trolling. That MBB was the one chosen is happenstance, and she's not really the meat of the article in my opinion.  signed, Willondon (talk)  19:35, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

photo
maybe you will give a newer photo from 2021 or 2022? Niamiaf (talk) 19:12, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Changing my edit is violating free speech in Wikipedia.
Add citations after edit thank you Uricdivine (talk) 19:44, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

A few ideas
I feel she is about as well-known for her role as Enola Holmes as she is for Eleven. Also there is a thing were she is known as racist, anti-muslim, and homophobic, even though to my best of my knowledge she is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krystal Kalb (talk • contribs) 06:10, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

You stupid?. Uricdivine (talk) 19:45, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't remember ordering a glass of your opinion, thank you. Krystal Kalb (talk) 00:56, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

This is 2022
Someone should add a 2022 or 2021 photo of her Uricdivine (talk) 12:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * In order to use an image on wikipedia you need certain rights to the image, you can't add any picture you find on the internet. It's not uncommon at all for articles about people to have older pictures of them. 76.130.234.196 (talk) 01:02, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

☹️
Dude who removed the part were Millie bobby brown was described as a producer and business woman.. are you aware that she is a producer? She directed and starred in anola Holmes one of Netflix's hit series..she is also a business woman because she owns her own brand called Florence by Mills..you guys remove people's edits that the have done extensive research on,you guys don't even follow her updates on social media but just come here to remove what people found out about her..is so frustrating.please kindly add back the reverted edits else I report you for disruptive editing and hindrance of free speech Uricdivine (talk) 19:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Only the most notable stuff should be mentioned, see MOS:ROLEBIO --FMSky (talk) 19:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Producing multiple films is mentioned in the article and she's included in the appropriate categories - that's certainly appropriate for inclusion. Businesswoman - she has launched a beauty product line that has received favourable comment and reviews from the likes of Vogue and Business Insider. Seeing as MOS:ROLEBIO applies only to the lead sentence - not the infobox - I don't see a problem with inclusion. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 20:20, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Well you can't just add 'businesswoman' as an occupation and not provide a single citation or write any details about her business ventures... 76.130.234.196 (talk) 01:00, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * yes, that's why i removed it for now. FMSky (talk) 07:26, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Shouldn't she be Spanish not English?
Born in Spain. Lived there until 4 years old 49.185.207.228 (talk) 00:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Her parents are British/English, but she grew up in Spain that is where her parents gave birth to her and trained her till the moved Uricdivine (talk) 18:20, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Help!
Please why would personal life be down...early life and personal life are meant to merge I don't know why it was separated.. please any one should make personal life be the second or first then early life next, instead of putting personal life under carrer which is under early life..thanks in advance 🙂~ Uricdivine (talk) 18:12, 4 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Uricdivine. BLPs are generally separated into choronological sections. When there is enough 'Personal life' info, it is separated from 'Early life'. You can review how articles are typically divided here. --Kbabej (talk) 23:18, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2022
Fluff unicorn123 (talk) 23:43, 5 June 2022 (UTC) millie bobby brown is also dating noah scnapp in real life
 * please provide reliable sources. S0091 (talk) 23:54, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Removal of personal life article
Hello,your article in millie bobby brown personal life is a great violation of both women and children alike. It is offensive that in a personal life of a young person her personal endeavours and personal relationships weren't stated while her being sexualized while being an underage has an article.. her being groomed and sexuals while being a child shouldn't be on her personal life.. I know I didn't elaborate my opinion well but I will be back with more details,also see WP:WAW ~🙂 Uricdivine (talk) 09:34, 6 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Mostly agree, with the exception of her personal relationships being covered. This is not Hello magazine, and should not list everyone she has dated. As she said herself - "Now get back to talking about real problems in this world other than my friendships... jeez." ;-) Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 10:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't agree it's in violation of both women and children alike. It is covered by green-level RS per WP:RSP. Just because the subject was under 18 does not mean that life didn't exist before her 18th birthday. Obviously it's terrible she has been sexualized, but we can't pretend it didn't happen. It's been routinely covered in RS and been the subject of much discussion. --Kbabej (talk) 15:10, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, WP:WAW, which @Uricdivine mentioned in their removal summary, is an essay, not a policy. Furthermore, even if it was policy, it's not being applied correctly. WAW states sexist language should not be used on WP. It's not stating WP should not cover real-world events that have happened to the subject. --Kbabej (talk) 15:13, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello @Bastun, I see you've removed the section before this has reached a consensus. Can you explain how any of the information is a violation of any WP policy? As I've written above, all information is sourced to high quality RS, and WAW is an essay. Which is still being misapplied. --Kbabej (talk) 19:14, 6 June 2022 (UTC)


 * (after edit conflict) There does not need to be a consensus for removal; it's a BLP, there needs to be consensus for inclusion. Coverage by RS is irrelevant; inclusions must also satisfy WP:DUE. Buzzfeed is not a reliable source and in any case, listing every "relationship" she had as a kid is unencyclopedic trivia and these should be excluded. (Again: ) Her accusations of "sexualisation" and bullying probably is due for inclusion, but if you're going to include it, please, make it a coherent and, dare I say it, a more grammatical and logical addition. What was there - isn't! I think what you mean here is that transphobic quotes, falsely attributed to Brown, were circulated in meme form; but it's really hard to tell from that sentence.  - what repeated sexualisation? Up to this point, you've mentioned one reporter who said it happened, but nothing has been outlined. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 19:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @Bastun. Thanks for the reply. To address your points:
 * The source is BuzzFeed News, not Buzzfeed. Buzzfeed News has a different editorial process and is considered a green-level RS on WP:RSP; please see WP:BUZZFEEDNEWS. The section states "BuzzFeed News now operates separately from BuzzFeed.
 * As for "listing every relationship", one additional relationship had been added with a notable person as reported by People (x2), yet another green-level RS on RSP.
 * For the bullying, you're right, and I agree, the sentence should be reworded, but the source uses the term "homophobic", not "transphobic". The BBC, one of the highest quality sources there is, states it is "homophobic abuse", seen here. Where are you getting "transphobic" from? I don't see that mentioned in the source even once. Perhaps, we could update what you suggested: "Homophobic quotes, falsely attributed to Brown, were circulated [on social media] in meme form." I added the "on social media" part, but I'm fine with that being left out as well.
 * For the sexualization, there were multiple RS that talked about that in the section you removed, including USA Today (which actually uses the word "sexualization" in the title; Brown herself posted about being sexualized, again using the term (source here and here); social media users have bullied her with sexualized photos, as BuzzFeed News reported here, which also lists "Sexualizing" in their article and article title. I'm confused as to what you mean when you say "nothing has been outlined". That's multiple sources outlining it.
 * Thanks again for the reply, and I'm interested in hearing your thoughts. I hope I've addressed your concerns above! --Kbabej (talk) 19:41, 6 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Again, just because something is reliably sourced doesn't mean it's WP:DUE for inclusion. Former relationships of a teenager just aren't. Doesn't matter who is reporting on it. Yes, homophobic, not transphobic, my bad. Due for inclusion? I'm not sure it'd pass the WP:10YEARTEST, to be honest. Will anyone remember the issue in 10 years? Five? Include if you wish, though, I won't remove it. What I meant about the sexualisation issue is that appears as a non sequitur - there's a quote from a reporter that mentions it, then the topic changes to the homophobic memes, then we're told Brown quite Twitter, then we come back to - but there's still been no explanation of what that means or what happened. If it's the sending of sexually explicit material, that's next addressed two paragraphs later. It just makes no sense as written. I am unsure too about the inclusion of the material on some non-notable social media "star". No prosecution seems to have arisen, so there are wP:DUE and 10YearTest questions again - at least for me. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 19:59, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You're responsive, and I appreciate it, @Bastun!
 * I agree that just because something is reliably sourced doesn't mean it's due for inclusion. I have two reasons for wanting to include the relationship with Jacob Sartorius, though I won't die on this hill. One is that this article is basically a LinkedIn profile without any sort of 'Personal life' information whatsoever. The subject is a high-profile entertainer and there's enough info out there to make a balanced BLP without keeping is basically a filmography. We're not IMDB; we should have more than that. Secondly, it seems as if you are arguing to exclude the seven month relationship with Sartorius, but wanting to include the relationship with Bon Jovi? They both happened when she was a teen, and neither resulted in marriage. Is there a reason why you want one and not the other included?
 * I believe the bullying, as reported by major news outlet, will pass the WP:10YEARTEST. The bullying of young girls online in Hollywood is a major issue, and it led to the subject leaving Twitter altogether. The BBC, USA Today, CNN, and other RS have discussed not only the subject's bullying, but her reaction, and the more widespread problem.
 * For your comment "It just makes no sense as written", that's likely fair. I think I had done it in pieces and chronologically, but it can absolutely be arranged better. (Addressed below)
 * For the social media star, I agree he is a low-profile individual. The subject isn't though, and we routinely cover major life events when they happen to high-profile entertainers when covered in RS (stalkings, break-ins, sexual assaults (like in this case), etc.). The event has been discussed in wider detail than simply the event; it's covered in relation to the impact on Brown and the media surrounding it.
 * To your point that the section was piecemealed together, what do you think about the following edited version of the first subsection (using the same sources as before, but not listed here for formatting's sake):
 * Brown came into the public eye at age 12 when cast in Stranger Things. At 14, homophobic quotes, falsely attributed to Brown, circulated on social media in meme form and she eventually quit Twitter because of the harassment. In addition to online bulling, she has also faced social media users and articles sexualizing her. She became frustrated with the experiences, and captioned a 2016 Instagram post with the comment "There are moments I get frustrated from the inaccuracy, inappropriate comments, sexualization, and unnecessary insults that ultimately have resulted in pain and insecurity for me." After turning 18 in February 2022 and legally becoming an adult, Brown's social media profiles began to be "flooded" by sexually explicit material from users.
 * In July 2021, when Brown was 17 years old, photos circulated on social media of her and 21-year-old TikToker Echo kissing and posing for photos. Echo responded on Instagram Live, stating he had "groomed" Brown and boasted of sexually assaulting her in what the Los Angeles Times considered "...graphic, vulgar terms while insisting he did nothing wrong and had "nothing to apologize for."" Representatives for Brown called Echo's allegations "dishonest," "offensive", and "hateful"; Echo subsequently disabled his social media accounts and apologized later in the week, stating he had been inebriated while streaming.
 * I think that edit really streamlines the information and is way less clunky! What are your thoughts? --Kbabej (talk) 21:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Coming from ANI, the section related to concerns about her bein specialized are fair game for inclusion, but her relations are 100% a failure of BLP. We are not celebrity gossip and that type of info doesn't belong even if she was an adult. --M asem (t) 23:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Masem! By "realtions" I'm assuming you mean romantic relationships? Or are you including friendships as well? If you're focusing on romantic relationships, it seems as if you, @Bastun, and @Uricdivine agree that information should not be included. The inclusion of the relationship with Jacob Sartorius isn't a hill I'm dying on, so that's fine. What are your thoughts on the subsection suggestion I made for the 'Sexualization in media and online bullying' subsection above in response to Bastun (timestamp 21:25, 6 June 2022)? --Kbabej (talk) 23:55, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, quick question: what do you mean by "coming from ANI"? I don't see anything there relating to her relationships, though I assume you're talking about this (which focuses on someone being "grossed out"). Are you just including that as a reference point for your own editing contributions? --Kbabej (talk) 23:59, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I can't speak for Masem, obviously, but this section as drafted feels largely like a gossip section masquerading as something else. I think a sentence along the lines of "She has criticized online bullying and her own sexualization at a young age" or some such would be all that's required, citing to the appropriate sources.  For me, this is still way, way too much.  Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 00:13, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @Dumuzid. How is this in any way gossip? It's well-sourced information about a very prevalent problem in Hollywood - and culture in general - where young women are bullied, sexualized, and driven away from engaging with social media. There are dozens of news articles and think pieces covering this issue in relation to Brown's experience. It's not Us Weekly talking about what ice cream she likes or her latest crush. --Kbabej (talk) 00:59, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, that doesn't require reporting who she may have been kissing, or what others might have said they did with her. I agree that this material is WP:DUE for the article, but both as a matter of proportional coverage and as a simple matter of editorial discretion, I don't think it deserves this sort of detailed coverage.  Reasonable minds may differ, of course. Dumuzid (talk) 01:02, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised (well, shocked, actually) at hearing sexual assault and the sexualization of minors, which is a very real and prevalent problem, dismissed as "gossip". Especially when the incidents are covered internationally by green-level RS. This isn't Tiger Beat's "10 ways for a better ponytail" column, or covering "who she may have been kissing". The subject has experienced harassment, sexualization by the media, and likely a sexual assault, and I think that the subsection above is very reasonable in covering important information. --Kbabej (talk) 01:05, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Length of the article, or section, is irrelevant. Brown is 18 - it makes absolute sense that her 'Personal life' section would be sparse. WP:NOHURRY, and we should not rush to fill the section just because it's sparse. So I would continue to exclude all prior relationships, for the previously stated reasons. She appears to currently be in a relationship with Bongiovi, so that's reasonable to include. The rewrite is an improvement and I would include the first paragraph of it. I am still really ambivalent and uncomfortable about including the material about the TikToker. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 10:30, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * For the record, I am okay with the first paragraph, though I still think it is rather more than we need. You can count me as quite opposed to the second.  Cheers, all. Dumuzid (talk) 12:15, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Since the paragraph has been rewritten and there seems to be a (weak) consensus to add it with @Bastun, @Dumuzid, and me, I will add that part back per WP:CON. --Kbabej (talk) 15:09, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

For those wondering, I didn't open a talk and give up,I have been away for a while due to reasons best known to me,I have read every one's opinion on this talk line by line and I must add that I agree to the decision of adding the paragraph because as kbabej said "which is a very real and prevelant problem",it helps to share the awareness of what teens are facing in the Nollywood society and also it is what has occurred in Millie's private life which is understandable for inclusion on her personal life Section..as bastun,dumuzid said the matter doesn't need a whole article but summarized and brief walkthrough on her personal life.. with all that being said I would love to thank everyone who participated in the talk for coming together and coming to a consensus.~🙂 Uricdivine (talk) 16:28, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Point 1: the current ref 47 makes the reader think it is unknown that Brown quit Twitter because of what happened re the misbehaviour.
 * Point 2: the article Demi Lovato does not have the relevant content from the same ref so that appears to be either include the content or not.
 * Point 3: I tend to think we should have more positive content in articles than negative points - I have never seen an article section where there is imbalance going towards the negative point of view: not every article has that sort of content when it comes to similar news like that on whatever type even if that appears in the news. Cheers, Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:29, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello @Iggy the Swan. I'll reply to your points below:
 * Point 1: I've replaced the BBC source with a People source (still a green-level source at WP:RSP) that directly states Brown left Twitter because of the misbehavior.
 * Point 2: That seems to be an other stuff exists argument (link points to an essay, not policy), but it's neither here nor there, because the new sourcing does not mention Lovato.
 * Point 3: I'm not sure what you're asking for here. The article covers her extensive awards/accolades with an entire section, which is positive content. In the 'Career' subsection '2013–2017: Early roles and Stranger Things', it's mentioned she won "critical praise" and was nominated for awards - both of which are positive content. In the '2018–present' subsection, it includes coverage of being an influential teen and being a UNICEF ambassador, both of which are positive content. Are you asking for more "balance" in the 'Personal life' section? The events included in that section have been hugely influential in her life and widely reported in RS. I'm also not aware of a policy that states we need "more positive content in articles than negative points". WP:DUE is the closest thing I can think of, but that's a slightly different point that states "pages [should] fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources." I think the article does that with covering her early life, career, personal life, and accolades/awards.
 * Thanks! --Kbabej (talk) 21:30, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't why people are saying Millie quit Twitter,she didn't I follow her on Twitter her name is "milliestopshate" and the account is verified also stranger things cast and crew follow her..what is meant to be included is that millie became inactive on Twitter(which is kinda true because her last post dates a year ago),but saying she quit Twitter means she deleted her account which she didn't!. Uricdivine (talk) 23:37, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Uricdivine. Brown did indeed quit twitter, as dozens of sources state. They specifically use that language ("quit"), including the BBC, People, Business Insider, The Independent, etc. Polygon uses "deactivated", but that language seems to be used in fewer sources. There's also the point that she used to tweet under the handle "@milliebbrown" and now she's tweeting under "@milliestopshate". So she likely just started with another account at some point. --Kbabej (talk) 00:15, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Ohok. Uricdivine (talk) 05:45, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2022
There is a spelling mistake in the article. "Bulling" should be spelt "Bullying' 142.188.54.174 (talk) 01:10, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ SamWilson989  (talk) 01:13, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi,Why was the talk named semi protected edit request? Uricdivine (talk) 05:44, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * The page isn't named "semi-protected edit request"? This section is, because @142.188.54.174 requested an edit. Could you clarify what you're asking? SamWilson989  (talk) 11:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

No need your answer is enough.. thanks Uricdivine (talk) 20:38, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Business woman
Bro, someone who acts is called an actor right? Someone who models for recognized brands like vouge and is also an ambassador for Louis Vuitton a fashion brand is called a model right? Someone who owns a successful and favourably rated brand by critic's e.g Florence by Mills is called a business person right? So why is millie bobby brown not given the credits she deserves? So someone add business woman there or turn on ur data go to the internet and search for what is the meaning of a business person and if owning a successful brand is business Uricdivine (talk) 18:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Uricdivine it depends on if Brown's other endeavors meets WP:DUE. Its not a matter of if she has done something, its a matter receiving significant coverage about that something.  Brown is certainly known and covered as an actor, thus that is what Brown is notable for but has Brown's other endeavors received the same weight of coverage?  It could be worth mentioning in the career section if there are sources the have written about Brown's modeling and ambassadorships.  S0091 (talk) 21:11, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I understand what you mean,and yes her beauty makeup line has received enough coverage from critics and fans alike tho not the same way her acting career has Uricdivine (talk) 09:04, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

how can an imagine be updated? Uricdivine (talk) 15:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

I mean a new imagine of Millie Uricdivine (talk) 15:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Uricdivine Yes, it can be updated. The difficultly is finding an appropriate image that is not a copyright violation.  See also the Image use policy and MOS:IMAGES.  S0091 (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I have gone through the things you sent. Thanks I now understand!. Uricdivine (talk) 19:13, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Agency
Why is there controversy about MBB being a model. She is signed to a modeling agency. Some of you people on here should find other things to do than argue.Pictureperfect2 (talk) 01:24, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Modeling career
Edits about Millie bobby brown being a model are being reverted even when citations verifying this are available. Modelling references will be included and consensus if it should be removed or left will be discussed here Uricdivine (talk) 17:33, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * No, you need to get consensus here first, not make it up yourself. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Make it up how I don't understand Uricdivine (talk) 17:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

For a consensus to be made in talk page,a topic should first be created so editors can come together to make a consensus. Or is me adding a topic a crime? And please what do you mean that I am making it up? @ Uricdivine (talk) 17:42, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * No, you need to get consensus here for inclusion, not the other way around. Stop pinging me, stop reverting and restoring your preferred version and engage here. If you continue, I will be requesting a block at ANI or WP:ANEW since you don't seem to be understanding how discussion works. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * What do you propose citing for the change, Uricdivine? Dumuzid (talk) 17:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

what do you mean I should stop pinging you? Like how do you expect to know I replied you. Like I said my edit was not to begin an edit war or to restore my preferred edit. I made the edit so that editors can be aware that there is currently a discussion starting at talk. Uricdivine (talk) 17:47, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * So let's have that discussion. Dumuzid (talk) 17:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know how much clearer "stop pinging me" can be. Stop pinging me in responses, on your talk page, here or anywhere else. I have a watchlist for a reason and further, believe it or not, I'm not obligated to respond to your every whim or comment. And that simply isn't how discussions work - you don't edit war your way into getting someone's attention and the fact that you think it's appropriate makes me wonder about your ability to edit any articles, let alone just this one. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@ if what you mean by "citing" is my reason for opening am argument. My reason is 1. because Millie bobby brown is a model who is signed to a modeling agency 2. Her modelling career has been covered extensively by news sources 3. She has received recognition from brand agencies like Louis Vuitton vogues and countless others so I do not see the reason why her being a model is being removed. Uricdivine (talk) 17:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Can you point me to some of those news sources? Dumuzid (talk) 17:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Brown is on the Talent board with other celebrities, she is not on the Women board or Women Development board with the models (in the M category, those being the likes of Miranda Kerr, Maria Borges, Malika Louback, Mona Tougaard, Martha Hunt, Maty Fall Diba, Meghan Roche, Mia Kang, and most importantly a model is equally notable for acting: Milla Jovovich). So by definition, being signed to an agency doesn't automatically make her a model. Trillfendi (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay i wont ping you. And no I never said it was appropriate neither did I know it was not allowed. Forget about all this the main reason for this particular topic is if modeling references should be included or not. Uricdivine (talk) 17:56, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Dumuzid not literally news sources just *fashion magazines*. Forgive my choice of words. The magazines and websites which have cited her as a model are reliable and I would be extremely delighted to point you to them. @ funny you mentioned all this people because when I clicked the citations that verified them as a model most of them being model.com I searched for Millie bobby brown and it showed me her modeling details. And what do you mean being signed to a modeling agency doesn't make her a model so what does that make her?. The main point of focus should be the particular agency that she signed with and if she has received coverage for it. Uricdivine (talk) 18:20, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Please point away! Also, it would be helpful if you would use proper identing when replying to people.  Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 18:22, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Sometimes I can't stand being the "resident model expert" around here, because people just don't listen. What "verified" these women as a model is their careers which you can read about if you bother to look past the last parameter of the infobox. Since you bring up models.com, they only list her job as an actor and director. If they truly considered her to have a legitimate modeling career outside of acting they would say "other: model". The most they say is she acts as a model. Trillfendi (talk) 18:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't know to add links so I would rather write it up the you look it up yourself. Models.com, vogue, Louis Vuitton,img models, people,Elle,wmagazine. Etc Uricdivine (talk) 18:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * With all due respect, that's not very helpful. To add links, you simply copy the URL and then put it in single brackets: These guys: ][ (but I put the ending one first and the beginning one last).  If you could try to do that, I will have a look. Dumuzid (talk) 18:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

]https://people.com/tv/millie-bobby-brown-life-in-photos/[,. ]https://www.imgmodels.com/milliebobbybrown[.]https://www.vogue.co.uk/tags/millie-bobby-brown[. ]https://www.voguehk.com/en/article/fashion/millie-bobby-brown-june-cover/[. ]https://models.com/people/millie-bobby-brown[ @ I have done as you asked let's see if it works. Uricdivine (talk) 19:14, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * You still need to work on using indents, but your links worked fine despite my ineptitude in trying to explain them. Of those, I see one slide in the People Magazine slideshow that mentions modelling directly, but that's all I can find?  At this point, it seems like a very small facet of her overall career.  Based on what I've seen, I'd say we leave it off, at least for now.  Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 19:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, please stop pinging me as well. When someone is already engaged in the conversation, it's a bit pushy to ping them with every reply.  Not a big deal, just FYI.  Cheers again. Dumuzid (talk) 19:19, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@ yes I did look past the infobox and yes there modeling career has received considerable coverage. This is because unlike Millie bobby brown their "career" or "profession" is just modeling. Millie has received coverage for her modeling career we all know she has received far more coverage as an actress but it does not mean her modeling career should be completely ignored. For the what you said about model.com you trying to say that "model".com included just an actress right? What do you mean that she acts as a model?. And may I asked why you mentioned only model.com what happened to vogue loius Vuitton and img models and the rest of them?. Uricdivine (talk) 19:24, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Dumuzid why do you people ignore the credible and reliable sources referring to Millie as a model but bring your case with sources reliable but yet slightly questionable? Example model.com,vogue, Louis Vuitton and img models. How is that a facet? Her career section which says that she is a producer but according to sources she has only produced enola Holmes and is set to produce the sequel the first being her production debut but yet she is addressed as a producer In her career section but when it comes to Modeling where she has modeled for more than one organization it becomes questionable if it should be included. Uricdivine (talk) 19:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * For me, it's because only one of your sources (from what I can see) actually referred to that as part of her career. Celebrities pose for pictures on magazine covers all the time without being considered 'models.'  Ideally, you'd want a high quality sources that says "She is a model, working for this agency and having done jobs x, y, and z.  In addition, she was particularly noted for her modelling of ZZ."  Again, perhaps you will convince others.  But based on this, for me it's a no.  Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 19:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I understand whay you mean. For high quality sources saying she Is a model model.com, for agency img models, for jobs done vogue and Louis Vuitton. Uricdivine (talk) 19:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * On those, I would defer to Trillfendi and just advise you to be careful of original research; we want someone to say "she's a model," not for her to show up on a website and us to infer that means she's a model.  Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 20:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@dumuzid why ignore the part about her being a producer? You say you want someone to say she is a model right?. She is signed to IMG model which is an modelling agency that represents fashion models,and Millie bobby brown is signed to them. Louis Vuitton which is a fashion and luxurious brand added Millie to thier modelling family. Your saying you need a website saying she is a model so her being signed to a modeling agency does not still establish her as a model right? Uricdivine (talk) 20:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * That's correct. Again, not really my area of expertise, so I would listen to Trillfendi, but for the uneducated like me, I would want to see in print "she is a model" or the like, and not have to make that secondary inferential leap.  Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 20:39, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree MBB is a model.Pictureperfect2 (talk) 03:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

]https://web.archive.org/web/20170124082943/http://www.instyle.com/news/millie-bobby-brown-calvin-klein-model-ad-campaign[. Uricdivine (talk) 21:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

]https://www.luxurydaily.com/louis-vuitton-millie-bobby-brown/[. [https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/moncler-taps-millie-bobby-brown-for-ad-campaign-1202743678[. [https://www.vogue.co.uk/tags/millie-bobby-brown[. ]http://people.com/style/millie-bobby-signs-with-modeling-agency-img/[. ]https://web.archive.org/web/20170124082943/http://www.instyle.com/news/millie-bobby-brown-calvin-klein-model-ad-campaign[. . Uricdivine (talk) 21:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

]https://www.seventeen.com/fashion/celeb-fashion/a39826661/millie-bobby-brown-louis-vuitton-ambassador/[. Uricdivine (talk) 21:57, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2022
Under the video games section of the filmography section, there is a citation with an external link that is in Spanish when there is an English version available. Please replace it. This is the link that belongs there: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/millie-bobby-brown-challenge 108.35.247.117 (talk) 23:52, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ (@108.35.247.117) lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい, ping me when replying 13:22, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2022
It says that she is born in 1994 and her age is 18. So either the DOB is wrong or the age 86.15.200.252 (talk) 22:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done — Sirdog (talk) 22:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Entrepreneur
Millie also owns her own skin care company. Florence by Mills. Where she promotes self care and natural looks. 47.22.33.162 (talk) 17:51, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Only notable titles and roles are added. On the contrary reliable sources you bring addressing her as an entrepreneur or business woman might help @. UricdivineTalkToMe 17:55, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Nationally
￼ Millie Bobby Brown, claims she is british only, but from my research I believe that she is Spanish-British. The reason I believe that, is because for example if your parents are from another country and you are from America and you don't call that a part of your nationally that is just straight up rude for your country (even if you don't like it). (She does say that she is from Spain but doesn't claim it as her nationally). I think it's rude to the country she was born in and the people that look up to her. In my point of view, I think that it will make fans think that they shouldn't present their nationally because of how Millie is presenting it. If I was a celebrity I wouldn't just say my parents nationally only and not mine. I'm just saying this to let people know that nationally is important because it represents people, the country itself, you and etc... That's why I wanted to let people hear my voice about this subject. On the web it clarifies that she is from Spain but why is it just only saying a British actress and not Spanish-British actress? Nybbay (talk) 06:22, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Nybbay, thank you for your thoughts, but we call her that because that is how the reliable sources refer to her. If you can find news reports or the like that refer to a Spanish nationality, then please present them here and they can be considered.  Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 18:20, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Just because you are born in a country, does not necessarily grant you citizenship of that country. Especially if both your parents also don't have citizenship in that country. In the case of Spain see Spanish_nationality_law she does not meet any of these requirements of Spanish citizenship. So she is only British. - Rooiratel (talk) 07:07, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * From what I understand, she would have to have had been in Spain for over 10 years to apply, and yes, she would have to apply., Considering she was only there for four years of her life, I am not sure she is qualified to apply for citizenship anyway. So this conversation is null! Govvy (talk) 12:25, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Nybbay. Yes, she may have been born there but that doesn't contribute to her nationality. Her heritage is English. Just because her family lived in Marbella and she was born there, does not mean she is Spanish. ￼ She may have claimed she is Spanish, but not only does she have lack of knowledge of the language, but she also does not have any Spanish DNA or a citizenship. If she were to take a DNA test, she would have low to none Spanish heritage. So no, she is not Spanish-British. And you must take into consideration she only lived there for 4 years. So no, that is not her nationality. 192.24.234.238 (talk) 23:00, 13 April 2023 (UTC)