Talk:Mind games

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Wow, did someone just condense a trivia lost?

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Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 16:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Mind game → Mind games — This is an inadequately developed article but still an important one. The problem is that the John Lennon album (Mind Games) has taken precedence. The mind games concept is obviously more fundamental than an album happening to have that name. Because "Mind games" is a redirect to "Mind Games", the author of this article had to incorrectly call it "Mind game". Also to avoid any confusion, the John Lennon album article should really be renamed "Mind Games (album)" instead of just "Mind Games". Penbat (talk) 10:05, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

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 * Support, reasoning makes sense, though I'm not sure it's necessary to rename the article on the album (we can cope with having two titles differing by capitalization).--Kotniski (talk) 15:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment, renaming the album wasnt a prerequisite for this rename. Somebody else can rename the album if they want to as a separate issue.--Penbat (talk) 15:23, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:--Penbat (talk) 10:05, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * In the nomination text, I don't see a good explanation of why this article should take the plural. Most article titles are singular.  Powers T 00:12, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Many words/phrases are always or nearly always used in the plural form - such as data, trousers, etc. "Mind games" is one of those - at least in the US, the term is nearly always plural. --Zarel (talk&sdot;c) 08:29, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to add:
 * This article itself only refers to the plural form in the text.
 * The plural form (discarding references to Wikipedia and Lennon) is much more popular on Google: 1,790,000 results "Mind games" -lennon -wikipedia versus 591,000 results "Mind game" -lennon -wikipedia
 * --Penbat (talk) 09:05, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Link to The Game
The link to The Game in the See Also section seems out of place, since The Game is not "mind games" in the sense described in this article i.e. it's not "passive aggressive behavior used specifically to demoralize or empower the thinking subject". Also the link doesn't provide any reason why this game should be linked from here, as required by the WP:ALSO guideline. The concern here is that, by way of being linked from here, the link is creating confusion suggesting that The Game is some kind of mind control. I think the point is, why is "The Game" related to "Mind Games"? Diego Moya (talk) 16:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it does control your mind, it controls what you do. The Game is a mind game, as it is played is everyones mind. AlexWolfx (talk) 16:29, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * But it's not "passive aggressive behavior" nor used "to demoralize or empower", nor even "covert mental manipulation"; it's not "mind games" even if it's "a mind game". This is not a valid reason to include the link in this particular article. Diego Moya (talk) 16:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * This mind games article should be updated to show other types of mind games beside if these few ways. A mind game could be like Jepordy too, using the mind. AlexWolfx (talk) 19:15, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * In that case I'm deleting the link until then. If this article covers other concepts in the future it could come back; now it makes as little sense here as it would in Mind_Games_(song). Diego Moya (talk) 18:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi! I believe that a link to The Game was originally added to Mind Games by some rouge editor as a particularly clever joke.  Atomic putty? Rien!  19:47, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Certain Vocab Words
In the first definition of "mind games" there are words in bold. I don't understand why these words are in bold. See below:

"also referred to as power games, head games, mind fuckery or head fuckery.[1]

I'm going to unbold and take out some of these words, as it is unnecessary to convey the meaning of what the definition is trying to say.