Talk:Minecon

Can MineCon really be called a convention anymore?
With 2017's MineCon being a 90 minute live show, how can you consider MineCon to be an ongoing convention? I think that in the article introduction, we should call MineCon a "former" convention, since it is now only a livestream. Jamesjpk (talk) 03:29, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Changed to "interactive live stream".  Nixinova   T   C  07:31, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

MineCon
Hey What will Next years MineCon Event be? and where will it be? Killershark101 (talk) 15:21, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Minecon 2020 will be announced a few months before the event, so in mid-2020. Also, Minecon is no longer a physical convention.  Nixinova  T  C  04:43, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 24 September 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:30, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

MineCon → MINECON – Minecon is never referred to using this capitalisation anymore; in all usages Mojang refers to it as "MINECON"; never "Minecon" or "MineCon". See    and relevant discussion on the Minecraft Wiki here.  Nixinova </b><b style=background:#006eff;padding:2px> <b style=color:white>T</b> </b><b style=background:#00a1ff;padding:2px> <b style=color:white>C</b> </b> 04:42, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support - logo and all the community post are in MINECON. ___<em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#aa6ef4">CAPTAIN MEDUSA <em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#000000">talk  (We are the champions, my friends)  12:04, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


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Requested move 31 January 2020
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The result of the move request was: moved to Minecon (non-admin closure)  NNADI GOOD LUCK  ( Talk &#124; Contribs ) 13:05, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

MINECON → MineCon – In October 2019 it was moved from MineCon to the all-caps MINECON. Sourced provided by were primary sources: the Minecraft official website and the Minecraft twitter account. The Minecraft Wiki is also very close to the subject. supported the requested move, because the logo and posts in the Minecraft community are written as such. Per WP:TITLEFORMAT, WP:MOSCAPS, WP:ALLCAPS and WP:ACRO and MOS:CAPSACRS, I feel this was an incorrect move. MineCon, a contraction of Minecraft and the word "convention", does not need to be written in all capital letters; it's not an acronym, like NASA or NATO.

Regardless, the names of article titles are based upon the usage in reliable sources, independent of how the actual subject might write it. A search of "minecon" on the WP:VG/RS custom Google search engine, brings up several reliable sources, independent of the subject Minecraft, that use MineCon (and also Minecon).
 * CNET: "Minecraft goes analog at MineCon with a new Builders & Biomes board game"
 * VentureBeat: "Virtual blocks, virtual cons: Minecraft’s Minecon will now be just a streamed event"
 * Eurogamer: "Minecraft's annual MineCon livestream event gets a September airdate"
 * GameRevolution: "Minecon 2019 Date, location, tickets, what to expect"
 * Engadget: "Virtual 'Minecraft' convention Minecon Earth returns September 29th"
 * MCV: "MineCon 2015 heads to London this summer"

And there are plenty more RS'es that use "Minecon". There are of course some instances of the all caps version (Shacknews: "Minecraft Nether Update revealed at MINECON Live 2019"), but with the majority of sources using "Minecon" and Wikipedia's guidelines and the discouraged use of all caps, I think it should be moved back to MineCon (or even "Minecon"). soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:19, 31 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Support either MineCon or Minecon. -- Netoholic @ 14:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with "Minecon" as a normalisation of "MINECON", but not "MineCon", as that name hasn't been used since ~2013. Googling "minecon 2019" shows the Minecraft.net page saying "Minecon 2019 | Minecraft &lt;br&gt; Learn more about the annual celebration of all things Minecraft at the Minecon 2019 event. Watch live & hear from content creators during this 2 hour stream.", though that's just the page metadata. Recent (2019) sources capitalise the convention as: MINECON MINECON Minecon MINECON MineCon Minecon Minecon MineCon Minecon MINECON Minecon Minecon, so I think the lowercase form is fine and supported by sources. <b style="border:1px solid #0800aa"> Nixinova </b> <b style="border:1px solid #006eff"> T </b> <b style="border:1px solid #00a1ff"> C </b>  18:29, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Move to . There's no case for CamelCase anymore.  O.N.R.  (talk) 01:17, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Move to Minecon which is most common in books]. No need for weird caps. Dicklyon (talk) 03:56, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per MOS:TM, MOS:ABBR, MOS:CAPS. This is not an acronym, but a fusion of two truncation abbreviations. I'd be kinda-sorta okay with Minecon, but a) it's short for M inecraft C onvention (not c onvention); b) it's easier to parse with the camelcase; c) the camelcase is common; d) it's conventional to use camelcase in such cases unless there's a really compelling reason not to. (A counter-example case would be Nabisco, which is almost never parsed by anyone as any kind of abbreviation, but is interpreted/assimilated as just a nonce name like Kodak; while it really is a compressed form of National Biscuit Company, hardly anyone knows that. By contrast, MineCon is obviously going to be parsed as Mine[craft]Con[vention] by nearly everyone, and worse yet, Minecon looks like something pronounced "min-eh-con"). I'm skeptical that all the sources that prefer Minecon are reliable and independent (some already cited are not), and I think there's a bit of WP:RECENTISM and WP:OFFICIALNAME at play (e.g. "that name hasn't been used since ~2013 ... the Minecraft.net page saying 'Minecon ...'" is both.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Those MOS guidelines have no bearing on WP:Article titles policy, which is what governs move requests like this. Wikipedia does not prescribe what titles are based on style - we reflect what topics are commonly called in the majority of sources (within techincal limits). -- Netoholic @ 05:59, 2 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Support move to Minecon. Per above. This is a support (!) as MineCon would already be a real improvement. Just not optimal. gidonb (talk) 03:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


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Sourcing
Is this article now sufficiently sourced to remove the nine year old template asking for additional citations? Leijurv (talk) 23:07, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Long overdue, done. -- ferret (talk) 00:07, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

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Mention of a dev confirming some things being shown
Hello! Not sure if what's already in the 2021 section would apply to this but one of the MInecraft devs actually replied to a user stating that some more stuff involving the latest update will be shown at Minecraft Live 2021. I'm not completely sure this is already mentioned (if it is it's unsourced so maybe we could use the tweet reply as a source?) so I'm just mentioning it here just in case. Blaze The Wolf &#124; Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 13:18, 3 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I think this would fall under WP:NOTNEWS. Going by the previous years' entries, they're all recounts of what happened at the con. SWinxy (talk) 21:42, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 4 January 2023
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The result of the move request was: No consensus, reasonable opposing argument unrefuted. No such user (talk) 12:33, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Minecon → Minecraft Live – The past three Minecraft-related conferences have been called Minecraft Live instead of Minecon, even on the main website. For this reason, I am to be believed that this should be renamed Minecraft Live per WP:NAMECHANGES. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 21:31, 4 January 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:30, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * Oppose, but you raise a good point. There have not been in-person events in years, and the Minecon moniker has not been brandished since 2019. I think it would be wise to change the tense of the article to be in past-tense rather than change the name. Minecon and the livestreamed successor are fairly distinct subjects, so I wouldn't want the conventions to be named under 'Minecraft Live'. (I'm going to be bold and move the 'Minecraft Festival' content to a new section, which I don't think is controversial.) SWinxy (talk) 22:19, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 14 July 2023
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material  Works  13:06, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Minecon → Minecraft Live – New name. Kermit the frogdog (talk) 12:28, 14 July 2023 (UTC) <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: #FF0000;">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose It's unclear if the in-person event has truly been renamed, since "Minecraft Live" only refers to the livestreams. Until there is another in-person event under the new name, it should stay as-is. If it stays livestream-only, it may merit a separate article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:28, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. 〜 Festucalex  •  talk  13:26, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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