Talk:Mini-DIN connector

DIN Standard
Does anybody have the number for the DIN standards? If anybody does manage to find them, addition to the article and List of DIN standards would be appreciated. — Mobius 22:19, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It looks like DIN 45322 might cover DIN connectors, both fullsize and Mini, but another source should be used to verify. Joey Hagedorn 04:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Do not know the number but there is a (new?) 10-pin mini-DIN plug that is used by Clarion for its auto DVD player and Yaesu on its new HF transceiver (FT-450) for connection to an amplifier. This should be listed. Jimc76 14:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC) [User:jimc76] 15 August 2007

I am pretty sure that mini-DIN has never been standardized by the Deutsches Institut für Normung (DIN). mini-DIN connectors only look similar to DIN connectors. It's just a myth! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.25.19.11 (talk) 18:24, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The mini-DIN plugs (3 to 8 pins) appear to be specified in IEC/DIN EN 61076-4-106:1995: "Connectors with assessed quality, for use in d.c., low-frequency analogue and in digital high-speed data applications – Part 4: Printed board connectors–Section 105: Detail specification for 9 mm circular connector with 3 to 8 contacts for use in a wide range of applications including the telecommunication and audio industry (IEC 61076-4-105 : 1995); German version EN 61076-4-105 : 1998". A useful cheat sheet and cross-reference is IEC 61602:1996 / GOST R 58246-2018: "Connectors used in the field of audio, video and audiovisual engineering".&mdash;Dah31 (talk) 19:31, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Non-standard laptop video out
I've added a diagram that matches my acer Aspire 5570. I notice that http://www.technick.net/public/code/cp_dpage.php?aiocp_dp=pinconhav_s_video_7pin has a diagram that looks mirror-image to this one... look closely at the spacing of pins 6 and 7, that's the main difference. Andrewa (talk) 18:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Geoport
http://www.indopedia.org/Geoport.html says that the 9-pin geoport connector accepts standard 8- or 9-pin Mini-DIN connectors. Is this true? Apple owners, please? Andrewa (talk) 18:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

It seems the answer is yes, but the pin numbering is completely different. I'll see if I can find a complete mapping. Andrewa (talk) 08:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. Andrewa (talk) 02:31, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Removed refactored section
I think that all the information from this section is now included in more specific sections. I've accepted most of it at face value; Some citations would be good! Andrewa (talk) 08:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Applications
Mini-DIN connectors have found a use in many different applications, most often for audio/visual signals, computer data, or low-voltage DC power.


 * Apple LocalTalk Network (Mini-DIN 3)
 * VESA Stereoscopic shutter sync (Mini-DIN 3)
 * Apple Desktop Bus (Mini-DIN 4)
 * S-Video (Mini-DIN 4)
 * Pearl Fightman Electronic Drums (Mini-Din 5) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.93.218.96 (talk) 00:20, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * PS/2 keyboard/mouse connector (Mini-DIN 6)
 * Amateur radio TNC modem-radio interface (Mini-DIN 6)
 * Power supply DC output for some electronic devices (Mini-DIN 6)
 * Macintosh Serial Port (Mini-DIN 8)
 * Apple GeoPort (modified Mini-DIN 8 with an additional pin)
 * VIVO port (Mini-DIN 8)
 * Sega Mega Drive II (Mini-DIN 9)
 * Sega Saturn (Mini-DIN 10, non-standard)
 * Commodore Plus/4 (Mini-DIN 7)
 * Acorn Archimedes (Mini-DIN 9 for mouse, Mini-DIN 6 for keyboard)
 * Alpine iPod Interface (D-shaped Mini-Din 10, non-standard)
 * JVC Mini-Din 8 (non-standard)
 * Radeon X850 Pro (Mini-DIN 9)
 * All-in-Wonder 9700 PRO (Mini-DIN 10)
 * NEC Turbo Duo Controller Port (Mini-DIN 8)
 * Logitech Z-340 Speakers (Mini-DIN 9)
 * Allen-Bradley Micrologix PLCs (Mini-DIN 8, non-standard)
 * Beyerdynamic microphone (non-standard)
 * Multimedia Extension Connector (Mini-DIN 8)

Diagram polarity
The original diagrams from Commons are of plugs (male connectors) as viewed when unplugged (rather than as viewed from the back when soldering the connections). Same view as from the back of a socket when soldering the connections.

This only matters for the 5-pin plug, which is quite assymetrical, and more subtly for the 8 and 9 pin plugs, where the spacing of the centre row of pins is not even. This gets confusing because for many diagrams of the Macintosh 8 pin serial port and 9 pin GeoPort, the spacing looks even. But it's not quite even when you actually sight the connectors.

See http://realm-online.com/images/every/projectors/550ports.jpg for a clear picture of a 5-pin socket, which shows the polarity of the connector clearly... assuming this is a standard and not a mirror-image connector! OEMs have an understandable but frustrating habit of making standard-looking connectors which ain't. Only a matter of time before this happens to the 5-pin mini-DIN I'm sure.

Anyway, I think I've got the polarities straight now, and have corrected the diagram of the connector on my laptop, which was originally of the socket (female) connector on the machine itself. All diagrams are now of plugs (male connectors). Andrewa (talk) 09:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

How to make a bodgey 5-pin plug
Of course, 6-pin plugs are a dime a dozen, every broken PS2 mouse and keyboard has one. 5-pin plugs are rarer. So to quote http://www.realm-online.com/epanelbook.htm

''I made the power cord out of a PS2 Extension Cable. It's only 26awg wire but it seems to work fine. I had to remove one pin and the plastic center to make it fit.''

Food for thought. I only hope that nobody ever plugs this power supply into a PS2 mouse or keyboard port! I guess that's not all that likely. But with the key removed from the plug, all sorts of nightmares are possible! Andrewa (talk) 10:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Alpine iPod Interface
If the Alpine iPod Interface uses a D-shaped connector, why is this described as a mini-DIN? It sounds to me like it's from a completely different series of connector. Andrewa (talk) 10:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

In that nobody speaks, and I can't find any reason to regard this as a DIN connector, I've removed


 * Alpine iPod Interface (D-shaped)

from the list of 10-pin mini-DIN connectors. All the others have a 9.5mm mini-DIN body. Andrewa (talk) 02:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

April 2008 Section Overhaul (New Listings & Diagrams Added)
Hi folks. After experiencing what it feels like to have a Mini-DIN connector I know nothing about and having to research it (the VIVO connector for video cards), I decided to take it upon myself to overhaul this section and make it easier to find (more relevant articles and article sections need to link to this page) as well as trying to comprehensively get as many Mini-DIN connection types and uses listed. I guess these fall into about 5 categories: (1) "Standard" (how do we know what is the standard set? where is it defined?), (2) the Not-So-Standard but in Popular Use, (3) Standard but Obsolete/Replaced, (4) Not-So-Standard and Obsolete/Replaced, and (5) Variations in positions of the same pin number. Basically I'll do my best to research and add everything I can, and I'll make more bitmap-based versions of the diagrams (saved in .PNG format (continuing Andrewa's work), hopefully with transparent backgrounds when I can get that working)... if someone would like to eventually make .SVG versions of all of these some time that would be great. I will also do my best to get a link to pinout info for each application, as best I can. Radical Mallard 5:17pm EST, April 23, 2008
 * Okay, I figured out why I was not properly able to reproduce alpha-textures/transparent backgrounds in my .PNG files, and I also finally realized why there are 7 standard plugs, and they all must look totally different from each other, and all other miniDIN configurations are nonstandard. I also realized why Andrewa had named his PNG files "Pseudo miniDIN-#", so I changed names back to the standard and re-organized everything properly. So now we have the proper STANDARD mini-DIN (approved by the D.I.N.) set of 7, and then a set of nonstandard male connectors bellow that. People should now be able to very quickly look at this page and determine exactly what application their mystery mini-DIN socket/jack or connector/plug is for! If anyone needs to make changes or additions please do! And always keep an eye open for more nonstandard plug types or esoteric (or brand new) applications to add. Radical Mallard 8:41pm EST, April 23, 2008

Link Cleanup
The links in this article are very useful, however many point to external sites that could go down, making this information no longer available. Also, several links are to sites that are not in English. I believe that it would greatly increase the readability of this article to verify the information in these links and add the info to this article (citing the sources, of course). Any info from the links that doesn't directly fit here could be used to create new articles, assuming they do not already exist. Seth (talk) 16:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Is the mini-DIN 9 really the standard?
I believe this article identifies the incorrect pin configuration as the standard mini-DIN 9-pin.

I have a Logitek X-220 speaker. The second row of pins is non-uniform, so it fits what this section calls the standard 9-pin.

I have a magnetic stripe reader whose manufacturer says uses a mini-DIN 9-pin; the first row of pins is non-uniform. It's similar to this article's nonstandard 9(b), but with a top key. Consequently, it does not fit any of the standard or non-standard pin configurations in this article.

However, it does appear that a non-uniform first row is the mini-DIN 9-pin standard.

The Amphenol Catalog also suggests that a non-uniform first row is the mini-DIN 9 standard.

The Digi-Key catalog page for Cui-Stack mini-DIN connectors suggests that a non-uniform first row is the mini-DIN 9 standard. There's also a picture of a non-uniform first row part.

The Mouser catalog page for KYCON mini-DIN connectors suggests that a non-uniform first row is the mini-DIN 9 standard. Glrx (talk) 19:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi. When I added the 9-pin image people assured me that was the standard. I also was assuming, just now, that the top row of pins wasn't evenly spaced but we couldn't tell by looking at it.  I looked at 2 of the 4 images you presented here... (can you find a replacement for http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T091/P0418.pdf which is a broken link?)  .. If I'm wrong and the standard is the visibly uneven top row (which I just saw for the first time)  we need to confirm this with the DIN organization (in Germany) somehow... but we shouldn't have a warning, I can just make a new image that we can use instead, so it looks less sloppy.  What should we do? Sorry for the confusion and any mistake I may have made. Radical Mallard (talk) 23:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It's been 2 years since I looked at this topic. IIRC, most of the 9-pin entries are suspect because there are non-standard variants of the mini-DIN.
 * I do not have access to the mini-DIN standard. The article had errors, so I made some edits.
 * I have Magtek reader with 9-pin mini-DIN; top row non-uniform; plug shell is 9.5mm (matching statement in Mini-DIN connector). I believe it to be the standard. It matches the catalog descriptions that I've seen.
 * I have Logitech X-220 speakers; the middle row is non-uniform; plug shell is 9.1mm. I believe it to be a variant. It matches the purported 9-pin in the article.
 * My concern is that the proper figure is used, that it is sourced, and potential errors from people using the wrong diagram be isolated.
 * Glrx (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Mirror-image non-standard mini-DIN9 plug
I've come across a cable with a standard PS/2 plug (actually marked "PS/2") on one and and a 9-pin plug on the other that seems to be the mirror image of the standard mini-DIN 9 plug as shown in this Wikipedia article. That is, it has two pins snuggling between keys in the bottom row, four apparently evenly spaced pins in the middle row, and a top row with two pins on the right and one on the left (looking into the male plug), rather than the two on the left and one on the right shown in the diagram of the standard mini-DIN9. As with the standard, my plug has a horizontal chord bounding a key at the top.

Does anyone happen to know what equipment uses/used this particular cord? The cable turned up among donations to a non-profit where I volunteer, and any information about provenance or archeological context has been lost. I'm just curious. Tonydwyer (talk) 21:29, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Physical Dimensions
These are missing. Not a very good connector article without these. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.241.152.175 (talk) 13:48, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Mini DIN does not exist. The japanese Hosiden company is the one and only owner of these types of connectors
The Hosiden japanese corporation has created and licenced all these types of connectors. The german normalization DIN is NOT the owner of these. A big work to correct articles and file names of pictures and graphics is needed. Tisourcier (talk) 10:58, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:COMMONNAME applies though. Bazonka (talk) 13:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It's pretty much the same situation as with RJ45 which is a common (but false) name for the 8P8C modular connector used in networking. AT&T standardized a different connector and application with "RJ-45S" but never standardized the ubiquitous connector used with twisted-pair Ethernet. I'd support renaming/moving the article but I don't think we'd find a majority here. --Zac67 (talk)
 * Someone above mentioned a DIN standard for a 9 mm connector, might be worth a check. Thibaut (talk) 16:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi everyone !
 * Here are sources to confirm that "Mini-DIN" (there is NOT any 9mm or 9.5mm in DIN standards wich is ONLY à 13.22mm circular format), so it is improper (and yet used) to qualify these, instead by "Oshiden", or "Ushiden", or "Hosiden" connectors.
 * Theses type of connectors have been created and licenced (and TM) by the Oshiden japanese company and used on various devices as such as video (S-Video - Y/C), PC or Mac (mouse, modem, printer... ports) and video games (PlayStation for eg.).
 * Here are some refs il you wishes to correct and improve this article, including technical specifications of serious companies or industrials :
 * https://www.wiringo.com/din-connector-everything-you-need-to-know.html
 * https://assets.legrand.com/general/legrand-exp/np-ft-gt/f00494en-00.pdf
 * http://www.icdia.co.uk/docs/pointing_devices.pdf
 * https://www.analogway.com/emea/training-support/glossary/cat:S/S-Video
 * https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-interfaces-101,1177-11.html
 * http://cineforhome.com/reviews/projectors/HitachiTX200/Hitachi-PJTX200Review.htm
 * https://www.slideshare.net/SoumailaOuattara/expos-de-classe-sur-la-connectique-du-pc
 * Have a nice evening. Regards. Tisourcier (talk) 13:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * And for “Ushiden" :
 * https://assets.legrand.com/general/legrand-exp/np-ft-gt/f00494en-00.pdf Tisourcier (talk) 13:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC)