Talk:Minister of the Armed Forces (France)

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1589-1643
If the office was established in 1589, why is nothing listed until 1643? 65.93.12.101 (talk) 11:27, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Confusing article : Minister (person) or Ministry (organisation) ? now or historical perspective.
There should be one article about the French Ministry of Defence as an organisation today, with a possible historical section.

Another article, secondary in my eyes, might focus on history and on the Ministers as persons. Euroflux (talk) 14:12, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Mistake
The editors made a huge mistake there : The Ministry and its minister were not established in 1589, but 1947. The Secretariat (then Ministry) of War was the one established in 1589. The Ministries of War, of the Navy and of the Air were merged into a single Ministry of Defence (since 2017, of the Armies) in 1947. I'll separate articles later.CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 16:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Name change - Dec 2019
Hi, an anonymous IP recently changed the name on this article and on Florence Parly to Minister for the Armed Forces instead of Minister of the Armed Forces. I don't fundamentaly disagree with it, I just undid both edits because it has resulted in broken wikilinks. I can undo my own undos, but first we need a consensus on the name.

Info for reflexion :

In French : Ministre des Armées

In English (lit) : Minister of the Armies

In English (convention) : Minister of the Armed Forces <--current translation

Proposition by Ip : Minister for the Armed Forces

I have some reserves however, because for the Armed Forces would translate pour les Armées/Forces Armées in French and that's definitely not the official name. And of doesn't seem wrong since there is a US Secretary of Defense. However in some commonwealth countries there are Ministers for Defense.

Thoughts ?

CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 08:27, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Sources/General comment
Hello,

On 12 September 2020, legifrance.gouv.fr, the government website hosting the laws and decrees of France was updated. Unfortunately, by doing so, the PDF versions of the decrees nominating at the offices were deleted. As a consequence, all sources between the 50's and the 90's are now dead links. I'm searching for an alternative.

Regards, CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 08:32, 13 September 2020 (UTC)